Messages in this thread | | | From | Andrew Lutomirski <> | Date | Thu, 12 Jan 2012 08:14:25 -0800 | Subject | Re: [RFC,PATCH 1/2] seccomp_filters: system call filtering using BPF |
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On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote: > On Wed, 2012-01-11 at 11:25 -0600, Will Drewry wrote: > >> Filter programs may _only_ cross the execve(2) barrier if last filter >> program was attached by a task with CAP_SYS_ADMIN capabilities in its >> user namespace. Once a task-local filter program is attached from a >> process without privileges, execve will fail. This ensures that only >> privileged parent task can affect its privileged children (e.g., setuid >> binary). > > This means that a non privileged user can not run another program with > limited features? How would a process exec another program and filter > it? I would assume that the filter would need to be attached first and > then the execv() would be performed. But after the filter is attached, > the execv is prevented? > > Maybe I don't understand this correctly.
Time to resurrect execve_nosecurity? If so, then the rule could be simplified to: seccomp programs cannot use normal execve at all.
The longer I linger on lists and see neat ideas like this, the more I get annoyed that execve is magical. I dream of a distribution that doesn't use setuid, file capabilities, selinux transitions on exec, or any other privilege changes on exec *at all*. I think that the only things missing in the kernel (other than something intelligent to do about SELinux) are execve_nosecurity and the ability for a normal program to wait for an unrelated program to finish (or some other way that a program can ask a daemon to spawn a privileged program for it and then to cleanly wait for that program to finish in a way that could survive re-exec of the daemon).
--Andy
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