Messages in this thread | | | From | "Joseph D. Wagner" <> | Subject | Re: FEATURE REQUEST: Specific Processor Optimizations on x86 Architecture | Date | Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:35:22 +0600 |
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First off, thanks Dave for having a far more polite and meaningful response to potty-mouth Tim Hockin.
>> So what?
> You can't use FP code in the kernel.
What can't be done today, might be done tommorrow.
I've long complained -- in this forum and in others -- that there's a lack of vision, or at least a lack of documented and published vision, when it comes to the future of kernel development. If you're wondering why I don't do it myself, it's because I don't know enough of where the project is headed, and I can't find out because it's not documented. Catch-22. However, this is entirely a separate discussion.
I am thinking of future development. I know this point is kind of moot because 2.6 already adopts the change, but that hasn't stopped about a dozen backports of other features to previous versions of the kernel.
> You're reading into this far too much.
Perhaps I'm reading too much into this from your personal message, and if I have overreacted to your personal message I apologize. However, this isn't the first time I've tried to help out, and deal with, the open source community. The community isn't very welcoming to newcomers which has made me a bit short tempered when dealing with them.
> Your proposed change is in part already vetoed (for sound reasons) > for 2.4, and is already included in the development branch > (where such a far-reaching change should be tested). The other part > of your proposal is completely bogus as far as the kernel is concerned.
I respectivly disagree with those reasons. -march is gcc flag. If it creates any instability (doubtful), it's really a gcc problem. Throwing it in will light a fire under their @$$ to get their act together.
>> If you don't make the change, I will consider it conclusive proof >> that the whole free-as-in-freedom is really just free-as-in-beer.
> No amount of 'threats' are going to change this.
That's not a threat, Dave. That's a statement of fact. If this change isn't put in, my opinion will be of x. It's a fact that my opinion will be of this nature. A threat would be if I took some sort of action that would be damning to the linux kernel project or open source as a whole, and my opinion -- for what it's worth -- doesn't carry enough weight to be damning to either.
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