Messages in this thread | | | From | "Jeff Merkey" <> | Subject | Re: Profanity in the Linux Kernel?!?!? | Date | Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:33:50 -0600 |
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The venomous tone in your response is unprofessional and offensive. You also need to be careful about attempting character assasination with me. As I've been reminded by folks in this forum, this is not the place to debate morals or legal issues. Customers also don't really care about "morality" issues when it comes to technology solutions, and it doesn't matter one way or the other on this issues about whether enterprise customers will adopt Linux or not based on moral issues. Look at Microsoft, now there's a paragon of morality -- their predatory and ruthless behavior has not slowed or hindered sales of their products at all, in fasct, it's their behavior that has made them the most powerul and successful sfotware company on the planet.. Also, I haven't missed any points, and have seen the entire thread. History is replendent with those who take up the banner of "moral temperance" for their own personal causes. Most of the wars of history have their roots in this type of issue. We should keep this forum technical, and allow folks the freedom to express their views, however, they choose to do so -- even prof(ane)oundly if they choose to.
Very Truly Yours,
Jeff
----- Original Message ----- From: Barry Treahy <treahy@mmaz.com> To: Jeff Merkey <jmerkey@timpanogas.com> Cc: Wakko Warner <wakko@animx.eu.org>; Barrett G. Lyon <blyon@netpr.com>; <linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 11:24 AM Subject: Re: Profanity in the Linux Kernel?!?!?
> I believe you've missed a couple of the well articulated points; that is that > people are working hard to present Linux as an acceptable component in corporate > environments and that anything which casts a negative impression about the Linux > makes it much harder to fight corporate bean counters that own MicroSloth stock. > > This isn't an issue of morals and you should keep your personal slams to > yourself, this is a matter of business and trying to make successful inroads > with powerful tools that we all recognize have value. Childish statements and > actions, or in this case profanity, do nothing but foster an attitude for those > Windoze folks that Linux shouldn't be taken seriously. > > Whether you like it or not, there are agendas out there and anything that can > give a product a black-eye will be used to distract or diminish the perceived > quality or viability in a corporate environment. > > Barry > > Jeff Merkey wrote: > > > Who cares! Profanity is like sex, death, and taxes -- it's a part of life. > > Don't you guys have something more constructive to focus on, like getting > > real work done to make Linux better? If folks don't like it, then they > > should join Jerry Falwell's Radio Preacher "moral majority" club or > > something. As swamped as I am with Linux work, I'm surprised folks out > > there have enough idel time on their hands to banter this type of stuff. > > > > Jeff > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Wakko Warner <wakko@animx.eu.org> > > To: Barrett G. Lyon <blyon@netpr.com>; <linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 10:37 AM > > Subject: Re: Profanity in the Linux Kernel?!?!? > > > > > > >This topic came up several times before, and the result is that > > > > >arbitrary censorship of code/comments is not going to happen. The > > > > >only exception is in kernel messages which can reach the user in the > > > > >message logs, and those have been cleaned up. > > > > > > > > Not that I care.. but.. : > > > > > > > > ./net/core/profile.c: printk(KERN_CRIT "Yep, guys... our > > template > > > > for proc_*_read is crappy :-)\n"); > > > > ./drivers/net/sdladrv.c: printk(KERN_ERR "%s: Damn... > > > > Adapter won't start!\n", > > > > ./drivers/isdn/isdn_common.c: printk(KERN_ERR > > > > "isdn_common: isdn_poll 1 -> what the hell\n"); > > > > ./drivers/isdn/isdn_common.c: printk(KERN_ERR "isdn_common: isdn_poll > > 2 > > > > -> what the hell\n"); > > > > ./arch/sparc64/kernel/traps.c: printk("SHIT[%s:%d]: " > > > > ./arch/sparc64/kernel/traps.c: printk("SHIT[%s:%d]: " > > > > ./arch/sparc64/kernel/traps.c: printk("instruction_access_exception: > > Shit > > > > SFSR[%016lx] SFAR[%016lx], going.\n", > > > > ./arch/sparc64/kernel/traps.c: printk("data_access_exception: > > Shit > > > > SFSR[%016lx] SFAR[%016lx], going.\n", > > > > > > Proposed config option: > > > CONFIG_ENABLE_PROFANITY > > > =) > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > > > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > > > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > >
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