Messages in this thread | | | From | (Eric W. Biederman) | Date | Wed, 10 Oct 2018 18:23:24 -0500 | Subject | Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v2 0/3] code of conduct fixes |
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James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com> writes:
> Resend to show accumulated tags and also to add a third patch listing > the TAB as the reporting point as a few people seem to want. If it > gets the same level of support, I'll send it in with the other two.
There is also:
> Our Responsibilities > ==================== > > Maintainers are responsible for clarifying the standards of acceptable behavior > and are expected to take appropriate and fair corrective action in response to > any instances of unacceptable behavior. > > Maintainers have the right and responsibility to remove, edit, or reject > comments, commits, code, wiki edits, issues, and other contributions that are > not aligned to this Code of Conduct, or to ban temporarily or permanently any > contributor for other behaviors that they deem inappropriate, threatening, > offensive, or harmful.
Which is very problematic. a) In append only logs like git we can not edit history. Making it a mainters responsibility to edit the history, to do the impossible is a problem.
b) There are no responsibilities of for people who are not Maintainers. That is another problem.
c) The entire tone of the reponsibilities section is out of line with a community where there are no enforcement powers only the power to accept or not accept a patch. Only the power to persuade not to enforce.
Overall in the discussions I have heard people talking about persuading, educating, and not feeding trolls. Nowhere have I heard people talking about policing the community which I understand that responsiblity section to be talking about.
Increasingly I am getting the feeling that this document does not the linux development community. Perhaps a revert and trying to come up with better language from scratch would be better.
I don't know how to rephrase that reponsibility section but if we don't go with the revert something looks like it need sot be done there.
Eric
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