Messages in this thread |  | | Date | Fri, 14 Feb 2014 07:52:38 -0800 (PST) | From | ChaosEsque Team <> | Subject | Re: Honestly, f__k systemd and f__k lennart, and f__k the fans of them. Where's linus in all of this? |
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Yep another systemd supporter tactic: shut down debate.
Also brush up on your colloquial english language skills. I never said systemd itself was crap. "Everyone knows that the systemd crap" IE: The systemd "stuff".
>ChaosEsque Team: >> Everyone knows that the systemd crap [...] > >Well, having used systemd for the past umpteen momnths, I can state from >personal knowledge that it works rather well. "Crap" by definition does >not, therefore systemd es not crap. > >Ergo, your main premise is hereby refuted. > >*NOW* will you kindly shut up? > >You're not helping anybody, not even those who otherwise share your opinion. > >I hereby formally ask the listmasters to please block these persons(?); >enough is enough. > >-- >-- Matthias Urlichs
You did state that if systemd was not default you would leave debian. It's always has to be your way, systemd people.
>Aigars Mahinovs wrote: >Not respecting the communication culture of the project is a perfectly >reasonable reason for a ban, regardless of the opinion expressed by >the banned or held by the banners.
When the communication culture means accept systemd, stop debating, stop trying to prevent the forcing of systemd on the debian community..
In that case, screw the rules. A revolution is needed when all power is in the hands of systemd supporters.
FOUR people should not beable to overturn 30 years of rock solid sysv stability. (20 years in debian).
FOUR people should not beable to cancel out the knowlege of how linux works of thousands of debian customers (yea, im not using your disrespectful "(l)users" phrase, people who run debian are not as dumb as you systemd people make us out to be, we DO care about init and ARE paying attention) and replace it with your own different ideas that we then are forced to learn.
The only reason systemd is to be forced on us is because a systemd supporter had the chair position in the debain tech-ctte oligarchic planning commission.
You shouldn't be able to declare sysv "depreciated", "going to be removed", "bit rotting" (wtf, the script is written once and works forever unless the daemon is rewritten to fork a few extra times for no particular reason, most scripts are write once work forevermore, and they exist, now. You want to rip them out)
You shouldn't be allowed to proclaim that systemd is the victor and you shouldn't be allowed to force or cajole us all to use systemd via the undemocratic debian process.
Even if you do aquire a majority, you should not be allowed to take away the rights of the slight minority.
We know sysv. It works fine. Alot of us do NOT want to use systemd. But you people say we have to or leave debian.
In that case debian needs to be split, and you systemd people need to be tossed out of one half of it, just as you are trying (and succeding) in tossing out non-systemd users and devs from debian currently.
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