Messages in this thread | | | Date | Tue, 07 Jan 2014 21:53:37 +0100 | From | Ove Karlsen <> | Subject | Re: Richard Stallman: Why “GNU’S Not Linux” and Why We Should “Say LiGNUx” / Stopping abusive behaviour. |
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On 1/7/2014 9:52 PM, Richard Dunn wrote: > In case you missed it, Phoronix covered your original email. > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU1MTI
Phoronix is not a serious newsplace.
I did think about the problem some more.
Maybe the whole Microkernel debate is an ego-issue too, really of control of information.
What would an additional JSR do.
And then I decide to read "operating systems: design and implementation" and what do I find:
https://www.google.no/search?q=operating+systems+design+and+implementation&rlz=1C1SAVU_enNO552NO555&espv=210&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=mWjMUoawK870yAOD14DoDQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=962#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=3Xxz9iSmxL5PkM%3A%3BwJyiNjvjxISczM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fi.walmartimages.com%252Fi%252Fp%252F09%252F78%252F01%252F31%252F42%252F0978013142938_500X500.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.walmart.com%252Fip%252FOperating-Systems-Design-and-Implementation%252F4323094%3B500%3B500
The book has a picture of a mushroom!
> On 1/7/14, Liam Lindholm <liam.oskar.lindholm@gmail.com> wrote: >> Mr. Karlsen, >> >> I find your response to my initial email quite interesting, but do not >> quite understand it. My mind is very sluggish here in Sweden where it >> is very, very cold. Sluggish like a cluster of 386s running Linux on a >> kitchen table in someone's backwoods shack. >> >> In case you didn't see it, here is the presentation Mr. Stallman gave >> about the Free Software Foundation's "Say LiGNUx" campaign: >> http://imgur.com/a/beY7E >> >> Mr. Stallman clearly needs a break from promoting an increasingly >> irrelevant software platform. In my first email, I suggested that we >> ban him from LKML or asking the Linux Foundation to issue a press >> release distancing themselves from RMS, GNU, and the Free >> Software Foundation. >> >> So far, to the best of my knowledge, none of those suggestions have >> been acted upon. >> >> If you do not mind, Mr. Karlsen, please elaborate. Do you agree with >> me that calling Linux as LiGNUx is destructive and is without gains? >> Or do you agree with Richard M. Stallman and think we should call >> Linux as LiGNUx? How do you think about this, Mr. Karlsen? >> >> Happy New Year. >> >> Liam Oskar Lindholm, >> Linux Kernel Hacker >> >> On 12/23/13, Ove Karlsen <mail@ovekarlsen.com> wrote: >>> In school, many national idols, art, and "national romantic" writings >>> are read. These are irrational variants of ancestor worship, that turns >>> ignorant people to brats. A flag nothing else than a totempole. A >>> monarchy nothing else than the development of old fertiliycults. Where >>> Brutus and Bimbo no doubt are central. >>> >>> No doubt even Stallman was bothered by those in his youth. And maybe >>> that is what is bothering many. Why anyone should go to school, to be >>> harassed for many years, I do not understand. I am well into my thirties >>> and realizing how much of a pain school really was, although I was not >>> the one most bothered, and I have seen many processing that, on youtube, >>> and other places. >>> >>> Behaviour on the internet is a problem, and it seems similar, and that >>> is really what reminded me of it. >>> >>> Stallman however made his own idol instead. The "GNU" is a similar >>> thing, a phallic idol of himself, as all idols are. And everyone >>> complains about the pseudoreligious brats in linux-circles. >>> >>> It is ofcourse not real religion, but idolatry, and with made up idols. >>> And that it is idolatry, is a important distinction to make. >>> >>> This is really at the base of facism, and seen for instance, when people >>> censor criticism like this, in favour of some idol. Be that Stallmans >>> Gnu, or gayactivism, 1950s gear worshippers, or people who think >>> 1024x768 is the ultimate resolution. Or many odd things. Which is common >>> online. >>> >>> Hippies also really are idolaters, sunworship, really the same as >>> swastika-worship. This scene from "Tommy" says a lot about what an >>> idolater is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IVwkz-BQGc >>> >>> Everyone is born with a monotheist nature though. >>> >>> On LKML, I have also seen arguments that resemble monotheism. For >>> instance lately, Linus said he didn´t want a corporate mindset. He has >>> also talked about natural developments, and also Gabriel Newell, inspite >>> of clear "psychedelic" art in some of his games, talk about letting >>> naturality take place. Hopefully that means reiterating out that >>> element, as it really is about the same again. And "just for fun", is >>> close to "for the praises of God" is it not. >>> >>> Our nature, is "muslim". Which means "in submission to God". >>> In Daoism, one talks about surrender and alignment. >>> In Buddhism and Daoism, both talk about quietness of the mind. >>> In Islam one talks about peace generally. And defines idolatry as >>> unnatural, polytheism, and association with God, and The Quran states, >>> God created you with the most upright nature. >>> >>> And one superordinate concept, one God, can also be logically defended >>> by Aristotles prime mover, and philosophical principles like The >>> Finetuning Argument. However many do not even know this, and think >>> monotheism is illogical, yet the school of logic, is said to have been >>> established by Aristotle. The same logic ofcourse, really the insight of >>> any true prophet. Programmers often like logic, and should know this. >>> >>> And Atheism do not have that, but often an irrational randomness, that >>> is given power to create, or claimed to be anything but white-noise. A >>> series of random events are white noise, equal probability for any >>> frequency. And Einsten and pseudoreligious scientific pantheism cannot >>> be rationally defended, as with pantheism infinity is irrationally >>> assigned to objects, truth is false, good is bad, god is satan, and many >>> of these defend idolaterous images. Dawkins discussions sometimes seen >>> on youtube, with beasthead idols, outside the building. Similar to the >>> sphinx-idols of Egypt ofcourse. Yet again phallic. And many who makes >>> claims about madness themselves, such as psychiatrists follow Freud >>> whose focus on libido, is just another rephrasing of phallic idolatry, >>> and the facism these uphold is known. Atheism also again irrational >>> idolatry. >>> >>> Removing irrational "randomness" from reality, leaves no coincidences, >>> nothing "just happens", unless God wills. And one gets a necessary >>> creator, that logically must be almighty, and sustainer of the heavens >>> and the earth. One who obviously guides and deludes whomever he wills. >>> And talks about mercy towards the believers. >>> >>> And Darwin makes irrational claims about species. No species that mutate >>> in any such degree, would ofcourse stop to mutate, and all species would >>> have left an enormous amount of mutations that did not make it. And even >>> just two compatible mutations, from another species, is absurd theory. >>> And mutation is not any object of occult power. >>> >>> And ofcourse Stallman claims to have some power of giving freedom to >>> hackers, by his GPL licence, are fradulent. >>> >>> Any of these, whether you view them more or less influental is just >>> doing the same. >>> >>> Free fantasy and conjuring of unreal things. If you are looking for the >>> logical, and really scientific view, that is Artistotle still. And >>> stallman does ofcourse not know what freedom is. And even making an idol >>> of himself. Maybe he was of those who used LSD, it used to be popular, >>> and unfortunately still is too popular. Turning people to stooges. >>> >>> Freedom, and natural behaviour comes with natural religion, that >>> protects human values. (non-sectarian) and godconsciousness. God is >>> almighty and just, Lord of The Heavens And The Earth. >>> >>> And Open-source is now well-understood, a better term, and is good >>> development, and much more graceful, than his slogans. >>> >>> If one is to fix the problem of ill-behaved participants anywhere, the >>> conflicts lies in monotheism vs idolatry (polytheism), as always. >>> >>> This can all be solved. Stallman does not have any occult powers, to >>> allow him only to write licences, and indeed if the licence was kernel >>> code, it would have been patched out, for reasons of obscurity, a long >>> time ago. >>> >>> I actually made a very simple licence for my own DSP-code, which atleast >>> works for me. It takes my understanding of "Open source", and words it >>> as simple as possible. >>> >>> "This program, plugin or function is licenced under >>> The Beneficient Open-Source Licence. >>> >>> That means that its source is released >>> and shall stay available openly, >>> to benefit humankind, in the path of God. >>> And that shall apply to developments, >>> modifications, derivations, and branches. >>> >>> The licence may not be changed, but modifications >>> between program, plugin and function may be done, >>> and used alongside software of other licences. >>> >>> Peace Be With You." >>> >>> That should be well understood in the beneficial arrangements of >>> monotheism. >>> >>> I also wrote it a little bit like this, to hint at library buliding of >>> re-used components. >>> >>> Ultimately it is about information-management, and good communication. I >>> wrote on my blog about decentralized blog/magazine style keyword >>> network, as a maybe usenet inspired modern iteration of many online >>> technologies. >>> >>> -- >>> Peace Be With You >>> Ove Karlsen >>> http://www.ovekarlsen.com >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" >>> in >>> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org >>> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >>> Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ >>> >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in >> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org >> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >> Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ >>
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