Messages in this thread | | | From | "Rafael J. Wysocki" <> | Subject | Re: linux-next: Tree for June 13: IO APIC breakage on HP nx6325 | Date | Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:23:15 +0200 |
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On Sunday, 29 of June 2008, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jun 2008, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > > I believe I removed all the occurences. I am waiting for a proposal of a > > > quirk based on the DSDT ID -- my time is a bit too limited to study the > > > internals of our ACPI code at the moment; sorry about that. I will > > > complement it with a change to remove IRQ0 from I/O APIC tables as > > > promised then; this piece of code I am quite familiar with. > > > > Well, why don't we use the DMI identification as suggested by Matthew? > > Because it checks the wrong property. > > > I think we can safely assume that all of these boxes are broken for now and we > > can use a more fine grained identification in the future, if necessary. > > It is the reverse -- checking the DSDT ID is coarser, matching all the > systems that use the broken firmware.
How can you tell which DSDTs are broken until somebody reports them?
> With DMI we may face both false positives and false negatives which imply > further maintenance actions.
With DSDT matching you're likely to end up breaking systems the users of which have not reported problems.
> Please note as proved over the years understanding of these issues seems > to be problematic for people, so the result may be another round of > discussions reinventing the wheel in a couple of years' time or so. > > That's my opinion only though -- if it was to hinder the progress, then I > am not going to persist.
Good.
> Have you tried to report the issue through the usual manufacturer's > support channels, BTW?
My experience with HP indicates that it would have been a loss of time.
Apart from this, I've always been against forcing people to upgrade their BIOSes just because we just had a briliant idea that made the kernel stop working on their systems. IMO it's extremely user-unfriendly and plain wrong.
Thanks, Rafael
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