Messages in this thread | | | From | "Stuart MacDonald" <> | Subject | RE: [OT] RE: bogofilter ate 3/5 | Date | Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:21:06 -0400 |
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From: Chase Venters [mailto:chase.venters@clientec.com] > So what is the SpamCop RBL data used for then?
SpamCop uses it on their own mail service to flag messages as potential spam and filter those out to a junk folder.
They also publish the list publicly.
So, SpamCop is blocking 0 emails.
As for third parties looking at their RBL, SpamCop specifically recommends that the list *not* be used for blocking: http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/291.html
> (1) The mail _would_ be solicited because you asked for it on > my behalf;
So you'll be sending me your snail mail address then? Thanks.
> permission. Phony permission, perhaps, but permission nonetheless...
False permission is no permission at all. That's a widely recognised concept; in law, life and the internet.
> On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Stuart MacDonald wrote: > > Things change. > > Yes, and eventually Internet mail will grow up and forgery
SMTP is growing up *right now*. The reconfig of servers to not send unsolicted bounces/etc is part of the growing-up-ness.
The following fall into two categories:
> 1. No more bounce messages > 4. No more deferral messages
Servers can be configed to not send these. To those whose systems are set up in such a manner to require accepting the message before delivery, to paraphrase Chase, "(2) Spammers would be responsible for your misery, not the parties rejecting your bounces".
> 2. No more "Your message has been queued for moderator > approval" messages > 3. No more "Thanks for contacting CrapCo, your support ticket > # is 238417" > messages > 5. No more vacation mail > 6. No more challenge/response systems > 7. No more mailing lists that you can sign up to by sending mail to > subscribe@list.org or majordomo@list.org; all subscription and > unsubscription must be done through web interfaces
All of these should be sent by a human.
> can turn all auto-response systems off completely.
Yep. That's the growing up you were looking for earlier.
It looks like we disagree on the method of change required. That's life.
..Stu
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