Messages in this thread | | | From | Jesse Pollard <> | Subject | Re: [OT] Re: Troll Tech [was Re: Sco vs. IBM] | Date | Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:41:37 -0500 |
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On Friday 20 June 2003 09:30, Larry McVoy wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 07:24:36AM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 12:09:10PM +0200, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: > > > On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 00:12:17 -0300 > > > > > > Werner Almesberger <wa@almesberger.net> wrote: > > > > Larry McVoy wrote: > > > > > These discussions always make me wonder if the open source crowd is > > > > > ever going to realize it's reasonable to be friendly with > > > > > commercial companies. > > > > > > > > The problem is that you can't trust a company. You may choose to > > > > trust people who control or shape a company, but they may lose > > > > that control, and then all bets are off. > > > > > > And that is exactly _the_ argument in this whole discussion. There seem > > > to be people out there who want to make a living from _others_ > > > _ancient_ work they bought for small bucks by sueing just about anyone. > > > > > > GPL has an inherent long-term strategy, you are talking of short-term, > > > Larry. That does not match. If I am using only GPL-software I know I am > > > able to use it as is in five years from now. > > > > Actually, my point is about long term strategy and what you think is long > > term I think of as short term. 5 years isn't long term in my book. > > I realized after I sent that that maybe the point was too subtle. > Open source is great, I use it, I love it, no problem there. However, > *if* I'm correct that what is happening is basically a process of copying, > and *if* open source kills off the companies producing the products which > are being copied, then open source slowly grinds to a halt in terms of > creating anything new. > > That may well be fine in the minds of many. Lots of people can't see > past their nose and all they want is free versions of what they have to > pay for today. What's past their nose is all the new stuff we haven't > seen yet. Imagine a world without that new stuff. Just roll back the > world to 5 years ago and think of what you would have lost.
so you are saying there should be only one OS.
Only one C compiler. Only one assembler. Only one processor. Only one disk drive. (since all they do is copy... :) Only one language.
Since all of the following ones are only "copies" of the first one.
And M$ must really love this one since copying is all they do.
And what would I have lost?
not much. I am still using a 200 MHz SMP PPro. welll... I would loose the UCITA, DMCA, Carnivore, 75 (or is it 90) year copyrights, restrictions on re-engineering ....
And a TON of stupid software patent restrictions.
I would have gained a number of bugs. I still use the window manager from 5 years ago... with my own enhancements.
And I still wouldn't use M$ based systems. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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