Messages in this thread | | | Date | Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:41:33 -0800 | From | "" <> | Subject | RE: NForce2 pseudoscience stability testing (2.6.0-test11) |
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>Subject: Re: NForce2 pseudoscience stability testing (2.6.0-test11) >>Josh McKinney wrote: >> To me the strangest thing is that when I first got this >>board a month or >> so ago it would hang with APIC or LAPIC enabled. Now it works >>fine >> without disabling APIC. All I did was update the BIOS and >>use it for a >> while with APIC disabled... > >Does the new BIOS use different defaults for memory timing, >bus speed, etc? >Did you change any of the default settings in the BIOS? > -- I don't think this issue has anything to do with motherboard maker or BIOS rev. Most of the people with this problem are not overclocking and have stable machines with other OSes or under certain conditions namely:
* In general NForce2 boards are stable under windows 2000 - a far as I can tell
* The boards are stable under certain conditions. The final test for this (Proposed by Allen Martin [AMartin at nvidia ! com] is to get a stable well supported PCI-IDE add in card and ignore the "AMD/NVIDIA" IDE onboard. (First pointed out by Ian Kumlien I believe) "If we all have that, and deadlock when using the amd/nvidia driver.. then we know that that might be the fault. The machine still locks for a while so, it's not just the ide, but it might be a good place to start."
* NForce2 boards are stable when using APIC and using generic IDE driver. This is painfully slow but is stable.
-- In general: I dont think it should be so easy to blame the BIOS. If one isnt overclocking and using the SPD on the memory and using conservative settings, what difference should that make? And if the board is stable with another OS I take this "BIOS blaming" and basically throw it out. BIOS is a deprecated arcane ridiculous thing and should never be trusted. I have seen on several nicer dual SCSI based machines messages on boot about certain values being changed or fixed up.
-- Fixing this for 2.4.x too is important so be sure to try and find out if 2.4.23 hangs if you get a stable 2.6 thing going.
Thanks everyone for your continued interest in this, I'll try and test the no-onboard-PATA + UP LAPIC and IOAPIC and add-in-card-PATA with no onboard PATA + + UP LAPIC and IOAPIC when I get a spare moment which is rare.
PS: If you are being CCed and dont want to be, let me know Some people arent on the list.
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