Messages in this thread | | | Date | Sat, 7 Apr 2001 21:02:24 -0700 | From | Joseph Carter <> | Subject | Re: goodbye |
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On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 12:56:21PM +1000, john slee wrote: > > Some ISPs rely on crap software & OS to process email, and have other > > so you don't use those ISPs
Not always an option. There are many places in the world in which your ISP is a monopoly. And even in your simplistic view of the world, there are many places in the United States where you are held captibe by not having more than one local ISP. That's even more true of broadband connections. Monopoly service is the rule there, not the exception.
Even in those cases where broadband users are given a choice of providers, they have to know to ask for that choice since it is never offered and by exercising that choice you will usually find the price to be at least double if not triple - often through no fault of your chosen ISP. If you order DSL without your telco's ISP, you'll usually discover a great many "fees" they only elect to charge if you don't cooperate.
My beef is and always has been with the DUL specifically. I have no issue with the RBL or RSS lists. ORBS ... well, they called one of my old ISPs' mail an open relay when it wasn't and took 3 months to decide to rectify the situation and remove us from their list. That doesn't instill much confidence. The DUL however is blatant discrimination based on connection class rather than any real evidence that spammers are at all affected by it. In fact, DUL users have no idea if the mail they block is spam or not.
For the record, my spam filters (procmail rules) stop 19 out of 20 spams from ever landing in my inbox. Of those, 1 in 30 (or less) was a valid email that was mistakenly identified. I know this because I check the folder I save those mails to about once a week on average for false positives. The rule that catches the most? * ! ^TOknghtbrd - perhaps the oldest spam detector ever and it catches almost all spam without keyword match or anything else.
Okay, end of rant, please think about it, etc.
-- Joseph Carter <knghtbrd@debian.org> Free software developer
<_Anarchy_> Argh.. who's handing out the paper bags 8)
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