Messages in this thread | | | Date | Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:25:59 -0500 | From | Daniel Davis <> | Subject | Re: That whole Netscape problem... |
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While currently running Netscape under a 56K dialup I did run it for a couple of months on an ADSL connection while I was living in New Orleans and I agree simply because I've never experienced the problem on a variety of software and hardware setups and under several kernel revisions (2.0, 2.1, and 2.2pre series).
The only consistent problem I've encountered is a nasty habit for Netscape to lock up if you do something like drag the window or maximize/minimize while it's loading a page. Even then a ps followed by a kill -9 solves the problem usually and you just restart. I'm heavily in the 'Netscape is buggy as hell' camp right now.
I'm in the process of hacking a absolutely stable version of Mozilla because I'd rather sacrifice features than worry about lock ups. I also despise memory leaks which Netscape seems to be prone to. Especially in the Java code.
Daniel Davis elminstr@bellsouth.net
Ely Wilson wrote:
> Netscape 4.x has been 'spontaneously shutting down' since as far as I can recall, on > both Debian and RedHat, under 2.0 and 2.1 kernels. This is nothing kernel related, > maybe indirectly if at all. This is a problem that should be taken up with Netscape > (or whoever it is that manages the browser source code) since this has been a long > standing problem among a great many users of all kernel versions. > > Maybe it uses a bad memory management scheme under Linux/Unix and it surfaces itself > under Linux/X Windows. This is a posibility, but I wouldn't stick my neck out so > far (on he lkml) and say it's kernel related, because tehre are MANY X apps that > don't spontaneously close themselves. If it were a less centralized problem... > well.. > > Mofeed Shahin wrote: > > > G'day all, > > > > I would just like to add to this, I have been running netscape on 2.1.1* > > and have had this problem. I have a modem dial up, so I don't think it has > > much to do with wether you have cable modem, or slower. I too like to > > browse with >15 windows open. But recently it seems to crash with less > > windows open. > > > > I tried to go to anyother browser because it had annoyed me so much, but > > too my suprise there wasn't much out there that got close (correct me if > > I'm wrong) to netscape. > > > > The versions of Netscape which showed this problem seemed to be 4.0? - > > 4.5. ie every version I have tried. I haven't tried 3.0?, which I may try > > tonight. > > > > I never reported it to the Linux kernel list because it didn't seem to be > > kernel related. But since some one else posted I may as well put my 2 bobs > > worth in. > > > > [SNIP] > > > > > I'm running Netscape 4.5 here on my RH 5.2 machine w/2.2pre7-ac2 and have > > > found that more and more often with the newer kernels its hanging up. Don't > > > recall this happening in any of the 2.1.13x kernels that I'd tried, but with > > > the 2.2pre kernels it's happening about every half hour to an hour now. Not > > > just when I'm browsing either, it frequently locks up when just picking up my > > > e-mail or un-iconifying the window. I've found that by opening up more > > > windows when browsing, I can cause the whole thing to just lock up that much > > > more quickly than when running just a single browser window. Quite a pain > > > though, as I usually browse with about 15-20 windows open at once. My > > > girlfriend on the other hand, uses one window only and has never experienced a > > > lockup. > > > > > > >From what I do recall having seen in the postings as of late, I get the sense > > > that it has to do with Netscape entering a race condition with the sockets > > > that are feeding information into it's own threading loop. I'm going to wager > > > a guess that many people out there simply aren't experiencing the problems as > > > they're primarily running it on a standard modem as opposed to a > > > LAN/ISDN/ADSL/cable modem. I've got a cable modem here and I'm wagering that > > > it's just feeding stuff in fast enough to force the race condition to occur. > > > > Cheers Mof. > > > > - > > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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