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SubjectRe: [PATCH v5 08/19] KVM:x86: Report KVM supported CET MSRs as to-be-saved
On 8/4/23 20:51, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>>>> + case MSR_IA32_PL0_SSP ... MSR_IA32_INT_SSP_TAB:
>>>>> + if (!kvm_is_cet_supported())
>>>> shall we consider the case where IBT is supported while SS isn't
>>>> (e.g., in L1 guest)?
>>>
>>> Yes, but userspace should be able to access SHSTK MSRs even only IBT is
>>> exposed to guest so far as KVM can support SHSTK MSRs.
>>
>> Why should userspace be allowed to access SHSTK MSRs in this case? L1 may not
>> even enumerate SHSTK (qemu removes -shstk explicitly but keeps IBT), how KVM in
>> L1 can allow its userspace to do that?
>
> +1. And specifically, this isn't about SHSTK being exposed to the guest, it's about
> SHSTK being _supported by KVM_. This is all about KVM telling userspace what MSRs
> are valid and/or need to be saved+restored. If KVM doesn't support a feature,
> then the MSRs are invalid and there is no reason for userspace to save+restore
> the MSRs on live migration.

I think you three are talking past each other.

There are four cases:

- U_CET/S_CET supported by the host and exposed (obvious).

- U_CET/S_CET supported by the host, IBT or SHSTK partially exposed. The
MSRs should still be guest-accessible and bits that apply to absent features
should be reserved (bits 0-1 for SHSTK, bits 2-63 for IBT).

- U_CET/S_CET supported by the host, IBT or SHSTK not exposed. The MSRs
should still be host-accessible and writable to the default value. This is
clearer if you think that KVM_GET_MSR_INDEX_LIST is a system ioctl. Whether
to allow writing 0 from the guest is debatable.

- U_CET/S_CET not supported by the host. Then the MSRs should not be
enabled and should not be in KVM_GET_MSR_INDEX_LIST, and also IBT/SHSTK
should not be in KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID.

In my opinion it is reasonable to require both U_CET and S_CET to be
supported from the beginning in the host in order to support CET. It
is simpler and keeps the feature matrix at bay.

Paolo

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