lkml.org 
[lkml]   [2023]   [Feb]   [27]   [last100]   RSS Feed
Views: [wrap][no wrap]   [headers]  [forward] 
 
Messages in this thread
/
Date
From
SubjectRe: [PATCH v1 0/3] Meson A1 32-bit support
On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 05:38:49PM +0100, Neil Armstrong wrote:
> On 27/02/2023 17:15, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2023, at 16:51, Dmitry Rokosov wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 03:58:50PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I would argue that is a problem with buildroot, and using a 32-bit
> > > > kernel is not something we should encourage over fixing buildroot
> > > > to do it right, or building the kernel separately from the rootfs.
> > > >
> > > > We do allow building support for a couple of ARMv8 SoCs in 32-bit
> > > > mode, but that is usually because they ship with a 32-bit bootrom
> > > > and cannot actually run a 64-bit kernel.
> > >
> > > To be honest, I didn't know about this principle. It looks like a very
> > > rational approach "start from max supported bitness".
> > > Based on overall maintainers opinion, we have to prepare a patch for
> > > buildroot to support compat mode :)
> >
> > That would be great, thanks a lot!
> >
> > For what it's worth, the main arguments in favor of running a 64-bit
> > kernel with compat user space over a 32-bit kernel are support for:
> >
> > - larger RAM sizes without highmem (most 32-bit kernels only
> > support 768MB of lowmem, and highmem sucks)
> > - larger virtual address space (4GB vs 3GB or less)
> > - CPU specific errata workarounds (arch/arm/ only has those for 32-bit cpus)
> > - mitigations for common attacks such as spectre
> > - security hardening that depends on larger address space
> > (KASLR, BTI, ptrauth, PAN, ...)
> > - emulating instructions that were removed in Armv8 (setend, swp, ...)
> >
> > Most of these don't apply in userspace, so the incentive to
> > run smaller 32-bit userland on systems with less than 1GB of
> > RAM usually outweighs the benefits of 64-bit userspace.
>
> Thanks for the details!

Looks like Thomas has already prepared a basic patch series for buildroot,
but maintainers declined it.

https://lore.kernel.org/all/20220730194331.GA2515056@scaer/

--
Thank you,
Dmitry

\
 
 \ /
  Last update: 2023-03-27 00:37    [W:0.084 / U:0.040 seconds]
©2003-2020 Jasper Spaans|hosted at Digital Ocean and TransIP|Read the blog|Advertise on this site