Messages in this thread | | | Date | Thu, 30 Jun 2022 15:33:23 -0700 | From | Lucas De Marchi <> | Subject | Re: [ANNOUNCE] kmod 30 |
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On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 03:09:32PM -0700, Luis Chamberlain wrote: >On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 08:36:21AM -0700, Lucas De Marchi wrote: >> - modprobe learned a --wait <MSEC> option to be used together with -r >> when removing a module. This allows modprobe to keep trying the >> removal if it fails because the module is still in use. An exponential backoff >> time is used for further retries. >> >> The wait behavior provided by the kernel when not passing O_NONBLOCK >> to delete_module() was removed in v3.13 due to not be used and the >> consequences of having to support it in the kernel. However there may >> be some users, particularly on testsuites for individual susbsystems, that >> would want that. So provide a userspace implementation inside modprobe for >> such users. "rmmod" doesn't have a --wait as it remains a bare minimal over >> the API provided by the kernel. In future the --wait behavior can be added >> to libkmod for testsuites not exec'ing modprobe for module removal. > >Sorry for the super late review, I was swamped. OK so the only issue >I can think of is that rmmod *used* to support the kernel wait support >with $(rmmod --wait) so wouldn't this be odd?
any reason not to use modprobe -r? Argument for rmmod supporting it in the past is that the wait was implemented on the kernel side and rmmod is the minimum wrapper around what the kernel provides.
On the other side, user shouldn't need to know where that is implemented.
Over time libkmod grew much more to support loading/querying modules rather than removing. I think for next version I will move some of the module-removal support to libkmod rather than modprobe/rmmod. Then we can think again on supporting that flag there.
> >It is why I had gone with: > > -p | --remove-patiently patiently removes the module > -t | --timeout timeout in ms to remove the module > >You would know better though. > >Also just curious, is it really terrible to just support waiting >forever?
is there a use case for that? If we are trying to cover some races, I imagine a small timeout would be sufficient. Also notice that if the timeout is too big, so will be the interval between the retries. On your v2 I had suggested polling the refcnt so we would get notificed on changes, but as you also noticed, that didn't work very well. So I went back to a time-based retry solution.
if there is a use-case, should we cap the interval between retries?
thanks Lucas De Marchi
> > Luis
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