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SubjectRe: [PATCH v4] btrfs: add fs state details to error messages.
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>> All the other interactions with info->fs_state are test/set/clear_bit,
>> which treat the argument as volatile and are therefore safe to do from
>> multiple threads. Without the READ_ONCE (reading it as a volatile),
>> the compiler or cpu could turn the reads of info->fs_state in
>> for_each_set_bit() into writes of random stuff into info->fs_state,
>> potentially clearing the state bits or filling them with garbage.
> I'm not sure I'm missing something, but I find the above hard to
> believe. Concurrent access to a variable from multiple threads may not
> produce consistent results, but random writes should not happen when
> we're just reading.

Maybe I've been reading too many articles about the things compilers are
technically allowed to do. But as per the following link, the C standard
does permit compilers inventing writes except to atomics and volatiles:
https://lwn.net/Articles/793253/#Invented%20Stores

>
>> Even if this is right, it'd be rare, but it would be exceeding weird
>> for a message to be logged listing an error and then future messages
>> be logged without any such state, or with a random collection of
>> garbage states.
> How would that happen? The volatile keyword is only a compiler hint not
> to do optimizations on the variable, what actually happens on the CPU
> level depends if the instruction is locked or not, so different threads
> may read different bits.
> You seem to imply that once a variable is not used with volatile
> semantics, even just for read, the result could lead to random writes
> because it's otherwise undefined.

Pretty much; once a variable is read without READ_ONCE, it's unsafe to
write a new value on another thread that depends on the old value.
Imagine a compiler which invents stores; then if you are both reading
and setting a variable 'a' on different threads, the following could happen:

thread 1 (reads)       thread 2 (modifies)

reads a into tmp

stores junk into a

                                reads junk from a

stores tmp into a

                                writes junk | 2 to a


Now a contains junk indefinitely.


But if it's too theoretical, I'm happy to drop it and amend my paranoia
level.


(Thanks for fixing the !CONFIG_PRINTK warning that btrfs_state_to_string
was unused; sorry I missed it.)


Sweet Tea

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