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SubjectRe: [PATCH 0/3] KVM: arm64: Handle CCSIDR associativity mismatches
On 2022/12/11 19:21, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 05:25:31 +0000,
> Akihiko Odaki <> wrote:
>> On 2022/12/04 23:57, Marc Zyngier wrote:
>>> On Fri, 02 Dec 2022 09:55:24 +0000,
>>> Akihiko Odaki <> wrote:
>>>> On 2022/12/02 18:40, Marc Zyngier wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 02 Dec 2022 05:17:12 +0000,
>>>>> Akihiko Odaki <> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On M2 MacBook Air, I have seen no other difference in standard ID
>>>>>>>> registers and CCSIDRs are exceptions. Perhaps Apple designed this way
>>>>>>>> so that macOS's Hypervisor can freely migrate vCPU, but I can't assure
>>>>>>>> that without more analysis. This is still enough to migrate vCPU
>>>>>>>> running Linux at least.
>>>>>>> I guess that MacOS hides more of the underlying HW than KVM does. And
>>>>>>> KVM definitely doesn't hide the MIDR_EL1 registers, which *are*
>>>>>>> different between the two clusters.
>>>>>> It seems KVM stores a MIDR value of a CPU and reuse it as "invariant"
>>>>>> value for ioctls while it exposes the MIDR value each physical CPU
>>>>>> owns to vCPU.
>>>>> This only affects the VMM though, and not the guest which sees the
>>>>> MIDR of the CPU it runs on. The problem is that at short of pinning
>>>>> the vcpus, you don't know where they will run. So any value is fair
>>>>> game.
>>>> Yes, my concern is that VMM can be confused if it sees something
>>>> different from what the guest on the vCPU sees.
>>> Well, this has been part of the ABI for about 10 years, since Rusty
>>> introduced this notion of invariant, so userspace is already working
>>> around it if that's an actual issue.
>> In that case, I think it is better to document that the interface is
>> not working properly and deprecated.
> This means nothing. Deprecating an API doesn't mean we don't support
> it and doesn't solve any issue for existing userspace.
> I'd rather not change anything, TBH. Existing userspace already knows
> how to deal with this,
>>> This would be easily addressed though, and shouldn't result in any
>>> issue. The following should do the trick (only lightly tested on an
>>> M1).
>> This can be problematic when restoring vcpu state saved with the old
>> kernel. A possible solution is to allow the userspace to overwrite
>> MIDR_EL1 as proposed for CCSIDR_EL1.
> That would break most guests for obvious reasons. At best what can be
> done is to make the MIDR WI.

Making MIDR WI sounds good to me. Either keeping the current behavior or
making it WI, the behavior is better to be documented, I think. The
documentation obviously does not help running existing userspace code
but will be helpful when writing new userspace code or understanding how
existing userspace code works.

Akihiko Odaki

> M.

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