Messages in this thread | | | Date | Wed, 19 Oct 2022 15:58:27 -0500 | Subject | Re: [PATCH] virt: Prevent AES-GCM IV reuse in SNP guest driver | From | Tom Lendacky <> |
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On 10/19/22 15:39, Peter Gonda wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 1:56 PM Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com> wrote: >> >> On 10/19/22 14:17, Dionna Amalie Glaze wrote: >>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 11:44 AM Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 10/19/22 12:40, Peter Gonda wrote: >>>>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 11:03 AM Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 10/19/22 10:03, Peter Gonda wrote: >>>>>>> The ASP and an SNP guest use a series of AES-GCM keys called VMPCKs to >>>>>>> communicate securely with each other. The IV to this scheme is a >>>>>>> sequence number that both the ASP and the guest track. Currently this >>>>>>> sequence number in a guest request must exactly match the sequence >>>>>>> number tracked by the ASP. This means that if the guest sees an error >>>>>>> from the host during a request it can only retry that exact request or >>>>>>> disable the VMPCK to prevent an IV reuse. AES-GCM cannot tolerate IV >>>>>>> reuse see: >>>>>>> https://csrc.nist.gov/csrc/media/projects/block-cipher-techniques/documents/bcm/comments/800-38-series-drafts/gcm/joux_comments.pdf >>>>>> >>>> >>>> I think I've wrapped my head around this now. Any non-zero return code >>>> from the hypervisor for an SNP Guest Request is either a hypervisor error >>>> or an sev-guest driver error, and so the VMPCK should be disabled. The >>>> sev-guest driver is really doing everything (message headers, performing >>>> the encryption, etc.) and is only using userspace data that will be part >>>> of the response message and can't result in a non-zero hypervisor return code. >>>> >>>> For the SNP Extended Guest Request, we only need to special case a return >>>> code of SNP_GUEST_REQ_INVALID_LEN. See below for my responses on that. >>>> >>>> >>>>>> I wonder if we can at least still support the extended report length query >>>>>> by having the kernel allocate the required pages when the error is >>>>>> SNP_GUEST_REQ_INVALID_LEN and retry the exact request again. If there are >>>>>> no errors on the second request, the sequence numbers can be safely >>>>>> updated, but the kernel returns the original error (which will provide the >>>>>> caller with the number of pages required). >>>>> >>>>> I think we can but I thought fixing the security bug could come first, >>>>> then the usability fix after. Dionna was planning on working on that >>>>> fix. >>>>> >>>>> In that flow how does userspace get the data? Its called the ioctl >>>>> with not enough output buffer space. What if the userspace calls the >>>>> ioctl with no buffers space allocated, so its trying to query the >>>>> length. We just send the host the request without any encrypted data. >>>> >>>> In the case of SNP_GUEST_REQ_INVALID_LEN, userspace wouldn't get the data >>>> if it hasn't supplied enough buffer space. But, the sev-guest driver can >>>> supply enough buffer space and invoke the SNP Extended Guest Request again >>>> in order to successfully complete the call and update the sequence >>>> numbers. The sev-guest driver would just discard the data in this case, >>>> but pass back the original "not enough buffer space" error to the caller, >>>> who could now allocate space and retry. This then allows the sequence >>>> numbers to be bumped properly. >>>> >>> >>> The way I thought to solve this was to make certificate length >>> querying a part of the specified protocol. >>> >>> The first ext_guest_request command /must/ query the certificate >>> buffer length with req.certs_len == 0. >> >> This becomes an incompatible change to the GHCB specification. >> >>> By making this part of the protocol, the sev-guest driver can check if >>> the certificate length has been requested before. >>> If so, emulate the host's VMM error code for invalid length without >>> sending an encrypted message. >> >> On the hypervisor side, the certificate blob can be replaced at any time >> with a new blob that is larger. So you may still have to handle the case >> where you get a SNP_GUEST_REQ_INVALID_LEN even if you previously asked before. > > Ah, I forgot the host could keep changing the size of this data. > >> >>> If not, then send an all zeroes request buffer with the req.certs_len >>> = 0 values to the VMM. >>> >>> The VMM will respond with the size if indeed the expected_pages are > >>> 0. In the case that the host has not set the certificate buffer yet, >>> then the host will inspect the header of the request page for a zero >>> sequence number. If so, then we know that we don't have a valid >>> request. We treat this also as the INVALID_LEN case but still return >>> the size of 0. The driver will have the expected pages value stored as >>> 0 at this point, so subsequent calls will not have this behavior. >>> >>> The way /dev/sev-guest user code has been written, I don't think this >>> will break any existing software package. >> >> I think having the sev-guest driver re-issue the request with the internal >> buffer when it receives SNP_GUEST_REQ_INVALID_LEN is the better way to go. >> You could still cache the size request and always return that to >> user-space when a request is received with a 0 length. The user-space >> program must be able to handle receiving multiple >> SNP_GUEST_REQ_INVALID_LEN in succession anyway, because of the fact that >> the hypervisor can be updating the certs asynchronously. And if you get a >> request that is not 0 length, then you issue it as such and re-use the >> logic of the first 0 length request that was received if you get an >> SNP_GUEST_REQ_INVALID_LEN with the user-space supplied value. >> >> Peter, is this something you could change the patch to do? > > OK so the guest retires with the same request when it gets an > SNP_GUEST_REQ_INVALID_LEN error. It expands its internal buffer to
It would just use the pre-allocated snp_dev->certs_data buffer with npages set to the full size of that buffer.
> hold the certificates. When it finally gets a successful request w/ > certs. Do we want to return the attestation bits to userspace, but > leave out the certificate data. Or just error out the ioctl > completely?
We need to be able to return the attestation bits that came back with the extra certs. So just error out of the ioctl with the length error and let user-space retry with the recommended number of pages.
> > I can do that in this series.
Thanks!
> >> >>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> For the rate-limiting patch series [1], the rate-limiting will have to be >>>>>> performed within the kernel, while the mutex is held, and then retry the >>>>>> exact request again. Otherwise, that error will require disabling the >>>>>> VMPCK. Either that, or the hypervisor must provide the rate limiting. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thoughts? >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221013160040.2858732-1-dionnaglaze@google.com/ >>>>> >>>>> Yes I think if the host rate limits the guest. The guest kernel should >>>>> retry the exact message. Which mutex are you referring too? >>>> >>>> Or the host waits and then submits the request and the guest kernel >>>> doesn't have to do anything. The mutex I'm referring to is the >>>> snp_cmd_mutex that is taken in snp_guest_ioctl(). >>> >>> I think that either the host kernel or guest kernel waiting can lead >>> to unacceptable delays. >>> I would recommend that we add a zero argument ioctl to /dev/sev-guest >>> specifically for retrying the last request. >>> >>> We can know what the last request is due to the sev_cmd_mutex serialization. >>> The driver will just keep a scratch buffer for this. Any other request >>> that comes in without resolving the retry will get an -EBUSY error >>> code. >> >> And the first caller will have received an -EAGAIN in order to >> differentiate between the two situations? >> >>> >>> Calling the retry ioctl without a pending command will result in -EINVAL. >>> >>> Let me know what you think. >> >> I think that sounds reasonable, but there are some catches. You will need >> to ensure that the caller that is supposed to retry does actually retry >> and that a caller that does retry is the same caller that was told to retry. > > Whats the issue with the guest driver taking some time? > > This sounds complex because there may be many users of the driver. How > do multiple users coordinate when they need to use the retry ioctl? > >> >> Thanks, >> Tom >> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Tom >>> >>> >>>
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