Messages in this thread | | | From | Dmitry Vyukov <> | Date | Thu, 30 Jul 2020 21:19:43 +0200 | Subject | Re: 回复: INFO: rcu detected stall in tc modify qd isc |
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On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 7:44 PM Vinicius Costa Gomes <vinicius.gomes@intel.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com> writes: > > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 9:13 PM Vinicius Costa Gomes > > <vinicius.gomes@intel.com> wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> "Zhang, Qiang" <Qiang.Zhang@windriver.com> writes: > >> > >> > ________________________________________ > >> > 发件人: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org <linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org> 代表 syzbot <syzbot+9f78d5c664a8c33f4cce@syzkaller.appspotmail.com> > >> > 发送时间: 2020年7月29日 13:53 > >> > 收件人: davem@davemloft.net; fweisbec@gmail.com; jhs@mojatatu.com; jiri@resnulli.us; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; mingo@kernel.org; netdev@vger.kernel.org; syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com; tglx@linutronix.de; vinicius.gomes@intel.com; xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com > >> > 主题: INFO: rcu detected stall in tc_modify_qdisc > >> > > >> > Hello, > >> > > >> > syzbot found the following issue on: > >> > > >> > HEAD commit: 181964e6 fix a braino in cmsghdr_from_user_compat_to_kern() > >> > git tree: net > >> > console output: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/log.txt?x=12925e38900000 > >> > kernel config: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/.config?x=f87a5e4232fdb267 > >> > dashboard link: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/bug?extid=9f78d5c664a8c33f4cce > >> > compiler: gcc (GCC) 10.1.0-syz 20200507 > >> > syz repro: > >> > https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/repro.syz?x=16587f8c900000 > >> > >> It seems that syzkaller is generating an schedule with too small > >> intervals (3ns in this case) which causes a hrtimer busy-loop which > >> starves other kernel threads. > >> > >> We could put some limits on the interval when running in software mode, > >> but I don't like this too much, because we are talking about users with > >> CAP_NET_ADMIN and they have easier ways to do bad things to the system. > > > > Hi Vinicius, > > > > Could you explain why you don't like the argument if it's for CAP_NET_ADMIN? > > Good code should check arguments regardless I think and it's useful to > > protect root from, say, programming bugs rather than kill the machine > > on any bug and misconfiguration. What am I missing? > > I admit that I am on the fence on that argument: do not let even root > crash the system (the point that my code is crashing the system gives > weight to this side) vs. root has great powers, they need to know what > they are doing. > > The argument that I used to convince myself was: root can easily create > a bunch of processes and give them the highest priority and do > effectively the same thing as this issue, so I went with a the "they > need to know what they are doing side". > > A bit more on the specifics here: > > - Using a small interval size, is only a limitation of the taprio > software mode, when using hardware offloads (which I think most users > do), any interval size (supported by the hardware) can be used; > > - Choosing a good lower limit for this seems kind of hard: something > below 1us would never work well, I think, but things 1us < x < 100us > will depend on the hardware/kernel config/system load, and this is the > range includes "useful" values for many systems. > > Perhaps a middle ground would be to impose a limit based on the link > speed, the interval can never be smaller than the time it takes to send > the minimum ethernet frame (for 1G links this would be ~480ns, should be > enough to catch most programming mistakes). I am going to add this and > see how it looks like. > > Sorry for the brain dump :-) > > > > > Also are we talking about CAP_NET_ADMIN in a user ns as well > > (effectively nobody)? > > Just checked, we are talking about CAP_NET_ADMIN in user namespace as > well.
OK, so this is not root/admin, this is just any user.
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