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    SubjectRe: [PATCH v2 1/5] drivers/accel: Introduce subsystem
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    [+ linuxppc-dev, because cxl/ocxl are handled through powerpc - please 
    cc on future versions of this series]

    On 26/1/19 8:13 am, Olof Johansson wrote:
    > We're starting to see more of these kind of devices, the current
    > upcoming wave will likely be around machine learning and inference
    > engines. A few drivers have been added to drivers/misc for this, but
    > it's timely to make it into a separate group of drivers/subsystem, to
    > make it easier to find them, and to encourage collaboration between
    > contributors.
    >
    > Over time, we expect to build shared frameworks that the drivers will
    > make use of, but how that framework needs to look like to fill the needs
    > is still unclear, and the best way to gain that knowledge is to give the
    > disparate implementations a shared location.
    >
    > There has been some controversy around expectations for userspace
    > stacks being open. The clear preference is to see that happen, and any
    > driver and platform stack that is delivered like that will be given
    > preferential treatment, and at some point in the future it might
    > become the requirement. Until then, the bare minimum we need is an
    > open low-level userspace such that the driver and HW interfaces can be
    > exercised if someone is modifying the driver, even if the full details
    > of the workload are not always available.
    >
    > Bootstrapping this with myself and Greg as maintainers (since the current
    > drivers will be moving out of drivers/misc). Looking forward to expanding
    > that group over time.
    >

    [snip]

    > +
    > +Hardware offload accelerator subsystem
    > +======================================
    > +
    > +This is a brief overview of the subsystem (grouping) of hardware
    > +accelerators kept under drivers/accel
    > +
    > +Types of hardware supported
    > +---------------------------
    > +
    > + The general types of hardware supported are hardware devices that has
    > + general interactions of sending commands and buffers to the hardware,
    > + returning completions and possible filled buffers back, together
    > + with the usual driver pieces around hardware control, setup, error
    > + handling, etc.
    > +
    > + Drivers that fit into other subsystems are expected to be merged
    > + there, and use the appropriate userspace interfaces of said functional
    > + areas. We don't expect to see drivers for network, storage, graphics
    > + and similar hardware implemented by drivers here.
    > +
    > +Expectations for contributions
    > +------------------------------
    > +
    > + - Platforms and hardware that has fully open stacks, from Firmware to
    > + Userspace, are always going to be given preferential treatment. These
    > + platforms give the best insight for behavior and interaction of all
    > + layers, including ability to improve implementation across the stack
    > + over time.
    > +
    > + - If a platform is partially proprietary, it is still expected that the
    > + portions that interact the driver can be shared in a form that allows
    > + for exercising the hardware/driver and evolution of the interface over
    > + time. This could be separated into a shared library and test/sample
    > + programs, for example.
    > +
    > + - Over time, there is an expectation to converge drivers over to shared
    > + frameworks and interfaces. Until then, the general rule is that no
    > + more than one driver per vendor will be acceptable. For vendors that
    > + aren't participating in the work towards shared frameworks over time,
    > + we reserve the right to phase out support for the hardware.
    How exactly do generic drivers for interconnect protocols, such as
    cxl/ocxl, fit in here?

    cxl and ocxl are not drivers for a specific device, they are generic
    drivers which can be used with any device implementing the CAPI or
    OpenCAPI protocol respectively - many of which will be FPGA boards
    flashed with customer-designed accelerator cores for specific workloads,
    some will be accelerators using ASICs or using FPGA images supplied by
    vendors, some will be driven from userspace, others using the cxl/ocxl
    kernel API, etc.

    --
    Andrew Donnellan OzLabs, ADL Canberra
    andrew.donnellan@au1.ibm.com IBM Australia Limited

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