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    SubjectRe: Official Linux system wrapper library?
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    On 11/15/18 12:08 PM, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote:
    > On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 04:29:43PM +0000, Joseph Myers wrote:
    >> On Thu, 15 Nov 2018, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote:
    >>
    >>> That's great. But is it or is it not true (either de jure or de
    >>> facto) that "a single active glibc developer" can block a system call
    >>> from being supported by glibc by objecting? And if not, under what is
    >>> the process by resolving a conflict?
    >>
    >> We use a consensus-building process as described at
    >> <https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/Consensus>.
    >
    > So can a single glibc developer can block Consensus?

    Yes.

    I think the comparison to the "liberum veto" is not a fair
    comparison to the way the glibc community works :-)

    (1) Community consensus.

    Consensus need not imply unanimity.

    Consensus is only from the set of important and concerned
    interests. The community gets to decide that you're a troll
    that does no real work, and can therefore ignore you.

    Consensus is blocked only by sustained objection (not just
    normal objections, which are recorded as part of the
    development process e.g. "I don't like it, but I leave it
    up to you to decide").

    Therefore an involved glibc developer can lodge a sustained
    objection, and block consensus.

    (2) The GNU package maintainers for glibc.

    There are 8 GNU package maintainers for glibc.

    The package maintainers created the consensus process to
    empower the community, but they can act as a final
    review committee to move issues where there are two
    reasonable but competing view points.

    As Joseph points out we haven't ever used the GNU pakcage
    maintainers to vote on a stuck issue, but I will arrange
    it when the need arises. If you think we're at that point
    with wrapper functions, just say so, but it doesn't seem
    like it to me.

    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos.

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