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SubjectRe: [PATCH 8/9] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: add support for ST's BCH NAND controller
On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 03:39:23PM +0100, Lee Jones wrote:
> > > +static int check_erased_page(uint8_t *data, uint32_t page_size, int max_zeros)
> > > +{
> > > + uint8_t *b = data;
> > > + int zeros = 0;
> > > + int i;
> > > +
> > > + for (i = 0; i < page_size; i++) {
> > > + zeros += hweight8(~*b++);
> > > + if (zeros > max_zeros)
> > > + return -1;
> > > + }
> > > +
> > > + if (zeros)
> > > + memset(data, 0xff, page_size);
> > > +
> > > + return zeros;
> > > +}
> >
> > I pointed out some flaws in this function back in July [1]. You said
> > you'd look into this one [2]. I really don't want to accept yet another
> > custom, unsound erased-page check if at all possible.
>
> That's not quite true. I said that I think it doesn't matter about
> not taking the OOB area into consideration, which I still believe is
> the case. This controller does not allow access into the OOB area.

Perhaps I'm not being clear enough.

While the controller may not allow you to program the spare area
directly, you do so implicitly by allowing the controller to program BCH
parity bytes to the spare area, right? So when you want to check if the
page is blank, you have to consider ALL areas that will be used -- both
in-band and out-of-band.

So, I'll repeat my question and try to elaborate:

"What if this is a mostly-blank page, with ECC data, but most of the
bitflips are in the spare area? Then you will "correct" this page to
all 0xFF, not noticing that this was really not a blank page at all."

More specifically:

1. Suppose you program a page with just a single byte of non-0xff
data, and your correction strength is at least 8 bits per sector

2. When programming this page, your BCH controller writes parity bytes
to the spare area

3. Over time (a lot of reads, for example), suppose you develop a lot
of bit flips in the spare area, such that your controller cannot
correct them any longer

Now consider two algorithms:

(A) Your current proposal, to just check the in-band data that you can
easily access. If there are more than X zero-bits in the page, return
an error. Otherwise, clear the page and log a correctable error.

(B) My suggestion, to check both the in-band and out-of-band. Same as
algorithm (A), except you check for X total zero-bits in both the
in-band and out-of-band

In the scenario I described, algorithm A will only notice up to 8 zero
bits (in that single byte we programmed), so if X is greater than 8,
algorithm A will falsely declare this an erased page and silently
clobber the data we programmed to it.

Algorithm B would notice that there are many zero bits in the spare area
(due to the programmed parity bytes) and will correctly declare this a
corrupt, non-erased page.

If I've made any false assumptions in here, please point them out. But
otherwise, I'd say that any erased-page detection algorithm that ignores
the spare area is incorrect.

If you agree with me, then you have at least two options:

(1) Remove this erased page check entirely from the initial driver, with
a TODO item to add spare area read support and to improve this
algorithm

(2) Keep the check as-is, but put a large FIXME warning which notes why
the algorithm is wrong. It's possible the wrong algorithm is still
marginally better than no erased-page detection at all. I'm not sure
what the probability distributions are like for this sort of error.

> > > +/* Returns the number of ECC errors, or '-1' for uncorrectable error */
> > > +int bch_read_page(struct nandi_controller *nandi,
> > > + loff_t offs,
> > > + uint8_t *buf)
> > > +{
> > > + struct nand_chip *chip = &nandi->info.chip;
> > > + struct bch_prog *prog = &bch_prog_read_page;
> > > + uint32_t page_size = nandi->info.mtd.writesize;
> > > + unsigned long list_phys;
> >
> > Please use dma_addr_t. This is an intentionally opaque (to some degree)
> > type.
> >
> > > + unsigned long buf_phys;
> >
> > Ditto.
> >
> > BTW, is your hardware actually restricted to a 32-bit address space? If
> > it has some expanded registers for larger physical address ranges, it'd
> > be good to handle the upper bits of the DMA address when mapping. Or
> > else, it would be good to reflect this in your driver with
> > dma_set_mask() I think.
>
> Yes, it's 32bit only. I will add a call to dma_set_mask() to reflect
> this.
>
> ... or not. See below.
>
> > > + uint32_t ecc_err;
> > > + int ret = 0;
> > > +
> > > + dev_dbg(nandi->dev, "%s: offs = 0x%012llx\n", __func__, offs);
> > > +
> > > + BUG_ON(offs & (NANDI_BCH_DMA_ALIGNMENT - 1));
> > > +
> > > + emiss_nandi_select(nandi, STM_NANDI_BCH);
> > > +
> > > + nandi_enable_interrupts(nandi, NANDBCH_INT_SEQNODESOVER);
> > > + reinit_completion(&nandi->seq_completed);
> > > +
> > > + /* Reset ECC stats */
> > > + writel(CFG_RESET_ECC_ALL | CFG_ENABLE_AFM,
> > > + nandi->base + NANDBCH_CONTROLLER_CFG);
> > > + writel(CFG_ENABLE_AFM, nandi->base + NANDBCH_CONTROLLER_CFG);
> > > +
> > > + prog->addr = (uint32_t)((offs >> (chip->page_shift - 8)) & 0xffffff00);
> > > +
> > > + buf_phys = dma_map_single(NULL, buf, page_size, DMA_FROM_DEVICE);
> >
> > Why NULL for the first arg? You should use the proper device (which will
> > help with the 32-bit / 64-bit masking, I think.
> >
> > Also, dma_map_single() can fail. It's good practice to check the return
> > value with dma_mapping_error(). Same in a few other places.
>
> If you do not supply the first parameter here, it falls back to
> arm_dma_ops, which is what we want. I guess this is also why we do
> not have to set the DMA mask, as we're running on ARM32, rather than
> AARCH64.

I think it's standard practice to make your hardware limitations
explicit when writing a driver. From Documentation/DMA-API-HOWTO.txt
under "DMA addressing limitations":

"It is good style to do this even if your device holds the default
setting, because this shows that you did think about these issues wrt.
your device."

But I won't press this issue.

> > > +static int bch_mtd_read_oob(struct mtd_info *mtd,
> > > + struct nand_chip *chip, int page)
> > > +{
> > > + BUG();
> >
> > Are you sure this can't be implemented, even if it's not the expected
> > mode of operation? That's really unforunate.
>
> It can. We have a 'special' function for it using the extended
> flexible mode. Trying to upstream this has been hard enough already,
> without more crud to deal with. I will hopefully be adding this
> functionality as small, succinct patches subsequently.

OK. But this is relevant to my points above -- particularly, you might
want the 'read OOB' functionality to properly implement the erased page
check.

> > > + for_each_child_of_node(np, banknp) {
> >
> > If you change the DT binding to require a proper compatible property,
> > you'll need of_device_is_compatible() here.
>
> I see no reason to allocate a compatible property to the bank
> descriptors. They're not being registered/actioned through
> of_platform_populate(), so ...

Well, this is all dependent on my comments on your DT binding patches. I
commented there that you did, at times, list a "compatible" property,
but you never actually used it and/or it was put in the wrong place. If
you determine that you do not need the property, then this comment is
also not applicable.

One reason for a "compatible" property might be if you have different
types of subnodes eventually, and you'll need to differentiate them. I
only see a need for a single type of subnode right now (the "bank"), but
it's possible you'd need to plan for the future.

> > [1] http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-mtd/2014-July/054500.html
> > [2] http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-mtd/2014-July/054881.html

Brian


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