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SubjectRe: [REGRESSION] 41c7f74 rtc: Disable the alarm in the hardware (v2)
On 12/12/2013 11:39 AM, John Stultz wrote:
> On 12/05/2013 03:51 AM, Brecht Machiels wrote:
>> On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 22:19:58 +0100, Borislav Petkov wrote:
>>> On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 12:47:17PM -0800, John Stultz wrote:
>>>> Ok, sorry about this. I've been hoping we'd get some better insight
>>>> into what's actually happening on these strange BIOSes where disabling
>>>> the irq seems to cause it to scream (powering the system back on when
>>>> its shutdown), in the hopes of having a proper workaround. But despite
>>>> Borislav's efforts, he didn't seem to be able to root cause the issue.
>>> Right, this bug is too nasty - you could generate good random numbers
>>> just from how the hardware behaves. :) And I've been trying to make
>>> sense of what happens but I failed, as you know. :(
>>> I consider it a huge waste of time and efforts having to deal with such
>>> b0rked hardware instead of throwing it out of the window into the poring
>>> rain while it is still powered.
>>>> Borislav, could you double check this patch still works on your
>>>> hardware as well?
>>> Well, we have the patch in SLES11:
>> SP3&id=835398eb94dca7d55acd1a2628372e602ae3252a
>>> and it passed testing.
>>> From what I see below, your version is equivalent to the one above with
>>> the logic reversed so it should work. I'll still try to get that
>>> affected box and run your version on it but it'll take a while.
>> Hello John and Boris,
>> Thank you for your quick response. And no need for an apology, I can
>> understand your frustration with the way some hardware behaves.
>> I ran with John's patch for a couple of days, and it seems to work.
>> Curiously, the laptop did spontaneously boot the first time that I shut
>> it down with the patched kernel. I have no conclusive explanation for
>> this, but I have noticed that a manual power down is necessary after
>> booting with an unpatched kernel. Simply rebooting with a patched kernel
>> is not enough to stop the spontaneous boots. As far as I can remember, I
>> went directly from my custom kernel (with the v2 patch reverted) to a
>> kernel with your patch applied, so I'm not 100% convinced everything is
>> all right. I should say that I did experience some spontaneous boots when
>> running only Windows XP in the past, so there may be occasions where
>> drivers might not be able to help at all.
> Yea. It seems almost like the RTC_AIE bit is inverted in the hardware or
> something.
>> Thankfully, after other shutdowns/hibernates (about 6 in total) the
>> laptop never booted spontaneously.
>> As for killing alarm functionality on the affected systems, I did some
>> quick tests. With the patched kernel, I can set the RTC alarm by echoing
>> to /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm, and the machine will boot at the
>> specified time. I have also tried setting the RTC alarm, and then
>> disabling it again by echoing '0' to /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm. While
>> this sets the alrm_time to five minutes in the future, alarm_IRQ is set
>> to 'no' and the machine does *not* boot spontaneously 5 minutes after
>> shutting down. So, all seems well, as far as I can see. Unfortunately, I
>> don't know enough about the RTC driver to draw any conclusions from this.
> Ok. Sounds like the patch works fairly well then. I'll go ahead and
> queue it for 3.14 and -stable.
Brecht: Is it OK if I add to the patch:
Tested-by: Brecht Machiels <>

Borislav: I'd like to add your tested by too, if you've had the chance.


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