Messages in this thread | | | Date | Fri, 08 Nov 2013 15:50:21 -0500 | From | Ric Wheeler <> | Subject | Re: XFS leadership and a new co-maintainer candidate |
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On 11/08/2013 03:46 PM, Ben Myers wrote: > Hey Christoph, > > On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 11:34:24AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 12:03:37PM -0600, Ben Myers wrote: >>> Mark is replacing Alex as my backup because Alex is really busy at >>> Linaro and asked to be taken off awhile ago. The holiday season is >>> coming up and I fully intend to go off my meds, turn in to Fonzy the >>> bear, and eat my hat. I need someone to watch the shop while I'm off >>> exploring on Mars. I trust Mark to do that because he is totally >>> awesome. >> >> Doing this as an unilateral decisions is not something that will win you >> a fan base. > It's posted for review. > >> While we never had anything reassembling a democracy in Linux Kernel >> development making decisions without even contacting the major >> contributor is wrong, twice so if the maintainer is a relatively minor >> contributor to start with. >> >> Just because it recent came up elsewhere I'd like to recite the >> definition from Trond here again: >> >> http://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/ksummit-2012-discuss/2012-June/000066.html >> >> By many of the creative roles enlisted there it's clear that Dave should >> be the maintainer. He's been the main contributor and chief architect >> for XFS for many year, while the maintainers came and went at the mercy >> of SGI. This is not meant to bad mouth either of you as I think you're >> doing a reasonably good job compared to other maintainers, but at the >> same time the direction is set by other people that have a much longer >> involvement with the project, and having them officially in control >> would help us forward a lot. It would also avoid having to spend >> considerable resources to train every new generation of SGI maintainer. >> >> Coming to and end I would like to maintain Dave Chinner as the primary >> XFS maintainer for all the work he has done as biggest contributor and >> architect of XFS since longer than I can remember, and I would love to >> retain Ben Myers as a co-maintainer for all the good work he has done >> maintaining and reviewing patches since November 2011. > I think we're doing a decent job too. So thanks for that much at least. ;) > >> I would also like to use this post as a public venue to condemn the >> unilateral smokey backroom decisions about XFS maintainership that SGI is >> trying to enforce on the community. > That really didn't happen Christoph. It's not in my tree or in a pull request. > > Linus, let me know what you want to do. I do think we're doing a fair job over > here, and (geez) I'm just trying to add Mark as my backup since Alex is too > busy. I know the RH people want more control, and that's understandable, but > they really don't need to replace me to get their code in. Ouch. > > Thanks, > Ben
Christoph is not a Red Hat person.
Jeff is from Oracle.
This is not a Red Hat vs SGI thing, Dave simply has earned the right to take on the formal leadership role of maintainer.
Regards,
Ric
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