Messages in this thread | | | Date | Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:44:45 -0700 | From | "Paul E. McKenney" <> | Subject | Re: [PATCH 1/10] Add generic helpers for arch IPI function calls |
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On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 02:37:17PM +0200, Jens Axboe wrote: > On Wed, Apr 30 2008, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 01:34:57PM +0200, Jens Axboe wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 30 2008, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 06:59:36AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 09:26:21AM +0200, Jens Axboe wrote: > > > > > > This adds kernel/smp.c which contains helpers for IPI function calls. In > > > > > > addition to supporting the existing smp_call_function() in a more efficient > > > > > > manner, it also adds a more scalable variant called smp_call_function_single() > > > > > > for calling a given function on a single CPU only. > > > > > > > > > > > > The core of this is based on the x86-64 patch from Nick Piggin, lots of > > > > > > changes since then. "Alan D. Brunelle" <Alan.Brunelle@hp.com> has > > > > > > contributed lots of fixes and suggestions as well. > > > > > > > > > > Looks much better, but there still appears to be a potential deadlock > > > > > with a CPU spinning waiting (indirectly) for a grace period to complete. > > > > > Such spinning can prevent the grace period from ever completing. > > > > > > > > > > See "!!!". > > > > > > > > One additional question... Why not handle memory allocation failure > > > > by pretending that the caller to smp_call_function() had specified > > > > "wait"? The callee is in irq context, so cannot block, right? > > > > > > (BTW a lot of thanks for your comments, I've read and understood most of > > > it, I'll reply in due time - perhaps not until next week, I'll be gone > > > from this afternoon and until monday). > > > > > > We cannot always fallback to wait, unfortunately. If irqs are disabled, > > > you could deadlock between two CPUs each waiting for each others IPI > > > ack. > > > > Good point!!! > > > > > So the good question is how to handle the problem. The easiest would be > > > to return ENOMEM and get rid of the fallback, but the fallback deadlocks > > > are so far mostly in the theoretical realm since it PROBABLY would not > > > occur in practice. But still no good enough, so I'm still toying with > > > ideas on how to make it 100% bullet proof. > > > > Here are some (probably totally broken) ideas: > > > > 1. Global lock so that only one smp_call_function() in the > > system proceeds. Additional calls would be spinning with > > irqs -enabled- on the lock, avoiding deadlock. Kind of > > defeats the purpose of your list, though... > > That is what we used to do, that will obviously work. But defeats most > of the purpose, unfortunately :-)
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> > 2. Maintain a global mask of current targets of smp_call_function() > > CPUs. A given CPU may proceed if it is not a current target > > and if none of its target CPUs are already in the mask. > > This mask would be manipulated under a global lock. > > > > 3. As in #2 above, but use per-CPU counters. This allows the > > current CPU to proceed if it is not a target, but also allows > > concurrent smp_call_function()s to proceed even if their > > lists of target CPUs overlap. > > > > 4. #2 or #3, but where CPUs can proceed freely if their allocation > > succeeded. > > > > 5. If a given CPU is waiting for other CPUs to respond, it polls > > its own list (with irqs disabled), thus breaking the deadlock. > > This means that you cannot call smp_call_function() while holding > > a lock that might be acquired by the called function, but that > > is not a new prohibition -- the only safe way to hold such a > > lock is with irqs disabled, and you are not allowed to call > > the smp_call_function() with irqs disabled in the first place > > (right?). > > > > #5 might actually work... > > Yeah, #5 sounds quite promising. I'll see if I can work up a patch for > that, or if you feel so inclined, I'll definitely take patches :-) > > The branch is 'generic-ipi' on git://git.kernel.dk/linux-2.6-block.git > The link is pretty slow, so it's best pull'ed off of Linus base. Or just > grab the patches from the gitweb interface: > > http://git.kernel.dk/?p=linux-2.6-block.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/generic-ipi
OK, will give it a shot. Low bandwidth at the moment, but getting there. If worst comes to worst, I will annotate one of your patches.
Thanx, Paul
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