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    SubjectRe: Slow DOWN, please!!!

    * Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:

    > What we need is not 'negative reinforcement'. That is just nasty, open
    > warfare between isolated parties, expressed in a politically correct
    > way.

    in more detail: any "negative reinforcement" should be on the
    _technical_ level, i.e. when changes are handled - not at the broad tree
    level.

    Sure, there are exceptions, etc. - but by the time stuff goes upstream
    it's too late and we've got to fix stuff instead of trying to push back
    on each other.

    by earlier integration (= linux-next) we can do the pushback much
    earlier, in a much more granular, much more technical in a much less
    personal way: "hey Ingo, your new sched-dizzy-blah patch broke stuff
    here, zap it" or "hey Dave, that socket-foo rewrite just broke things
    here, zap it".

    git-revert _kind of_ makes that possible too, but people still feel too
    personal about reverts - they take it as intrusion into their subsystem
    and regard it as an attack against their competence as a maintainer.

    and this is all so typical btw.: the most effective measure against
    human warfare is for people to see each other and to talk to each other.

    [ That's one reason why i am so worried about mailing list isolation.
    People get more distant, they mean less to each other, work less with
    each other => Linux suffers. I do accept that for some people lkml is
    simply too noisy - but i think the cure is worse than the disease. ]

    Ingo


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