Messages in this thread | | | Date | Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:55:07 -0700 | From | Stephen Hemminger <> | Subject | Re: [PATCH 0/4][RFC] netns: sysfs: add a netns suffix to net device sysfs entries |
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:01:59 -0700 ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) wrote:
> "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com> writes: > > > Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm@xmission.com): > >> Benjamin Thery <benjamin.thery@bull.net> writes: > >> > >> > Support for network namespaces in mainline is pretty complete for > >> > some time now, but there is still this issue with sysfs that prevents > >> > more people to use it easily. > >> > >> Ben your patchset is completely inappropriate. > >> > >> Temporarily adding elements to the ABI that we intend to remove > >> is not a proper solution to this problem. > >> > >> That user space visible ida you add is a namespace identifier that breaks > >> nested containers and migration. It is very very very wrong. > > > > I disagree (not surprising :) completely. The well-known userspace > > tools (ifconfig, ip, etc) will not see the lo@1, they'll see lo. > > Userspace in a container can either umount /sys completely, or do > > The well-known user space tools don't use /sys at all. Modern > network tools use rtnetlink (ip) old network tools use /proc/net. > > Very few things actually use /sys and for those things lo@1 or > eth0@1 are completely useless except for implementing a FUSE > mock up of sysfs. But you don't need anything in sysfs to do > that as all of the interesting information is available through > /proc/net or rtnetlink.
Lots of scripts are starting use /sys for things. It is easier to parse /sys/class/net than the output of ifconfig or ip
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