Messages in this thread | | | From | Al Boldi <> | Subject | Re: Designers and Builders (was: Who wants to maintain KR list for stable releases?) | Date | Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:50:20 +0300 |
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Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 04:54:24PM +0300, Al Boldi wrote: > > Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 07:31:24AM +0300, Al Boldi wrote: > > > > Adrian Bunk wrote > > > > > > > > > Tracking feature or implementation suggestions wouldn't make > > > > > sense. Consider e.g. that there are several people on linux-kernel > > > > > who often write what they think the kernel should do but who never > > > > > write a single line of code themselves. There's no value in > > > > > tracking such stuff. > > > > > > > > There are designers, and there are builders. > > > > > > > > Can you tell me who is more important? > > > > > > That's a distinction that doesn't exist in practice: > > > > > > Designing kernel features requires good knowledge of the area of the > > > kernel that should be changed. > > > > > > IOW: If you don't have the skills to implement it yourself you don't > > > have the skills to do any good design. > > > > I might agree with you on this wrt hacking around the kernel, but when > > it comes to introducing new subsystems, then we have a two fold > > situation: > > > > 1. Designing the internals of the new subsystem > > 2. Interfacing it with the rest of the kernel > > > > Part 1 is completely independent of the implementation, it's part 2 that > > needs intricate implementation knowledge. > > That's a perfect approach that works NOT. > > Your subsystem needs to interact with the VFS or the block layer or > whatever else parts of the kernel. > > If you had ever written kernel code you would have known that your > statement wasn't true. > > > We recently had an example of this: kexec based hibernation > > > > So, what's wrong with tapping into people's design suggestions, and > > allowing others to implement it? > > People soon realize that you are making a fool of yourself when your > suggestions show that you don't have a clue what you are talking about. > > There's nothing wrong if this is the desired effect...
I really didn't expect this kind of a response, but I guess when somebody runs out of arguments, then that's probably one of the responses to expect.
Really sad.
Thanks anyway!
-- Al
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