Messages in this thread | | | Date | Fri, 6 Jul 2007 01:50:36 +0200 | From | "Jesper Juhl" <> | Subject | Re: [git pull][resend] Input updates for 2.6.22-rc7 |
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On 06/07/07, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote: > > > On Thu, 5 Jul 2007, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > > It says your user-agent is "Kmail", and maybe there is some way to fix it. > > And if kmail is correct, please make a bug-report to the kmail people. > > Ok, googling for kmail, I think it really is kmail doing it, because I > find others complaining about the same idiocy. > > Btw, the others who noticed this weren't _nearly_ as polite as I am about > kmail. > > Apparently kmail - at least when cutting-and-pasting - will actually turn > every other space into an NBSP for some internal idiotic reason. So even > if you _originally_ had 8 spaces, Kmail will apparently corrupt your data > when cutting-and-pasting according to that other report I saw. > > Please stop using kmail, or ask for it to get fixed. > Or just configure it differently. I use kmail sometimes (either that or pine) and with a little config tweaking (and a few rules of thumb about use) it can actually be made to behave resonably fine.
Here are a few tips; - Don't cut'n'paste stuff into kmail - Go to Settings --> Configure KMail, select Composer, remove the checkmark from "Word wrap at column ...". - Go to Settings --> Configure KMail, select Composer, go to the Charset tab, make the list read us-ascii, iso-8859-1 - just listing those two (in that order) seems to generate working mails. - Go to Settings --> Configure KMail, select Accounts, go to the Sending tab, make "Message property" be "Allow 8-bit".
When writing a new message, check the Options menu, make sure Wordwrap is not enabled and that Encoding is us-ascii or iso-8859-1 (or possibly something else) - the auto-detect option seems to sometimes get things wrong.
When inserting a patch or similar into a mail, use Message-->"Insert File"
> I'm constantly surprised by just how _many_ ways MUA's find to screw up.
'pine' actually seems to work pretty damn well once you disable the flowed-text "feature".
> It's not like they seem to all have some stupid bug. It's more like they > seem to all have willfully added code explicitly to mess up the content of > email, often with the goal of making it "look" right, even if it's crap. > > In this case, it means that you cannot cut-and-paste simple ASCII text, > because Kmail messed up. > Yeah, email is old, and there are too many ways to do things, too many conflicting RFC's, compeeting commercial implementations etc etc etc - the whole thing could do with a from-scratch re-implementation (as if that's going to happen)...
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