Messages in this thread | | | Subject | Re: Request for Linux Kernel Mailing List archives | Date | Thu, 21 Jun 2007 08:21:03 +0200 | From | Oleg Verych <> |
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* Newsgroups: gmane.linux.kernel * Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:10:53 -0700 > >> For example, if a message had: >> >> Message-ID: <4676C78D.8040208@zytor.com> >> >> ... and I could just generate a URL: >> >> http://linux-kernel.example.com/msgid/4676C78D.8040208@zytor.com > > gmane can do that: > http://mid.gmane.org/4676C78D.8040208@zytor.com
To have Gmane (news<=>e-mail [and web]) engine[s] on the kernel.org will be the best thing ever!
The "News<=>e-mail" part is major because of things, i've learned after using it with (_mature_ news reader) slrn. Any web interface, basic like in marcs.info, or comprehensive, like Gmane's one can't replace functionality news server(Gmane)/reader is giving to you (summary):
* You don't receive (or annoyingly bounce) huge traffic. . big backlogs are handled easily in many cases, like getting e-mails, replying in interesting threads, just don't care about flames. I've just removed (by one key-press) 300, 200, 100 messages of Dual-Licensing thread, because i trust Linus.
* Interesting discussions are easily saved(by threads) on your side, so you can search them or read (any mbox format reader, like `mutt -f`)
* (slrn) Searching Message-Id as easy as one key-combination and one copy/paste {1}
* (slrn) Restoring of whole thread from one e-mail (or {1}) -- one key-combination
* (slrn + Gmane) headers have "Archived-At" entry, so i can just copy/paste it for web-based users
* (slrn + Gmane) listing of news-groups (actually ML<=>Gmane-NEWS) as easy as all above: patterns, one key-combination * i bet much more, than i've just told.
And that's pretty why i'm happy to be with. After abandoning Mozilla (buggy, memory hungry ever stuff), X and having console, screen, slrn, lynx, emacs-nox i'm a pretty much more efficient that any time back.
All web, rss, other XML/WEB-2.0 crap does will not help. Get your developers back -- use and publish healthy ways and tools to use!
I mean, come on, that's easy, rather than develop IMHO useless e-mail/patch brokenness (WRT plain-text) checkers and docs.
Publish your way of being productive and saving environment! (tm:)
>> (Extra points if all the vger lists are available, not just LKML.) > > gmane has thousands of free software mailing lists. I don't know > whether it has all of the vger lists.
There are many, that i'm aware of: kernel, commits, ide, net, usb, archs(amd64 at least), sparse, git...
Namespace in Gmane is a little bit wrong. For example gmane.linux.kernel and gmane.linux.debian.*
I.e. Linux kernel (with sub-parts) is in noise of distributions, while latter can have different kernel actually (e.g. kfreebsd in the Debian). ____ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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