Messages in this thread | | | Subject | Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 | From | Alexandre Oliva <> | Date | Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:28:20 -0300 |
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On Jun 17, 2007, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> * Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 15, 2007, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote: >> >> > it is a false statement on your part that the executable "does not >> > function properly" if it lacks that part. Try it: take out the harddisk >> > from the Tivo (it's a bog standard IDE harddisk), put into a nice Linux >> > PC, mount it, modify a bit in the kernel image header and it will likely >> > still boot just fine on that PC. >> >> Ok, try this: take the disk out, remove/replace/modify the signature, >> put the disk back in, and tell me what it is that fail to run.
> you mean back into the Tivo? That is not support for what you claimed. > You claimed the "executable does not function properly" if it lacks that > part (and you did not qualify your statement with anything). That was a > false statement, because it still works fine in just about any > bog-standard PC. A true statement would be: "the modified executable > does not function properly _in the Tivo_". It still works fine on a > general purpose PC.
I stand """corrected""". It doesn't matter, because the TiVo is where the combination of the executable with the signature shipped, and, see, I didn't talk about modifying the executable, what I wrote about above was modifying the signature alone. See?
> But you didnt really want to make use of Tivo's free software > enhancements, right? Lets face the sad truth: the overwhelming majority > of Tivo 'modders' wanted to hack the PVR not to enhance the Tivo, they > more likely wanted to watch pay-per-view content without the pay bit and > they perhaps wanted to get around service restrictions that the Tivo > implements (and through which it funds lower-than-production-cost for > the PVR). So the 'rights' you are trying to protect are invented > 'rights' of mostly _freeloaders_ in fact.
Sony Betamax anyone?
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