Messages in this thread | | | From | Daniel Hazelton <> | Subject | Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 | Date | Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:23:19 -0400 |
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On Saturday 16 June 2007 12:57:59 Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Jun 16, 2007, Bernd Schmidt <bernds_cb1@t-online.de> wrote: > > Alexandre Oliva wrote: > >> On Jun 15, 2007, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote: > >>> What this means for the FSF goals if Tivo get up one morning and switch > >>> their system firmware to ROM however is interesting 8) > >> > >> I'm not the FSF, and I don't speak for it, but it seems to me that > >> this would be "mission accomplished". > > > > This is insane. You start with a lofty ideal involving "freedom", and > > when you end up with a meaningless technicality (and in technical terms > > a change for the worse) you consider it a victory? > > It accomplishes the mission in that everyone is on the same grounds. > Same freedom for everyone. If the vendor tries to keep a privilege > over the software to itself, denying it to its customers, it's failing > to comply with the spirit of the license. It's really this simple. > Is this so hard to understand?
-ELOGIC
They are not keeping a priviledge over the *SOFTWARE* at all. They are keeping a priviledge over the *HARDWARE*. But, of course, you've already proven to everyone here that you are unwilling and/or unable to understand that.
> The goal is not to push vendors away from GPLed software. If they > can't permit modification of the software, that's fine, they can still > accomplish this.
replacement != modification
If you can't understand that simple fact, then its pointless to continue this discussion.
DRH
> What they can't do is deny it to customers while they retain it to > themselves. This is unfair, this is wrong, and this disrespects > users' freedoms. Therefore, the GPL should not permit it.
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