Messages in this thread | | | From | "Rafael J. Wysocki" <> | Subject | Re: When will the lunacy end? (Was Re: [PATCH] uswsusp: add pmops->{prepare,enter,finish} support (aka "platform mode")) | Date | Wed, 27 Sep 2006 00:51:25 +0200 |
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On Wednesday, 27 September 2006 00:31, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 07:38:31AM +1000, Nigel Cunningham wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Tue, 2006-09-26 at 22:35 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > On Tuesday, 26 September 2006 22:14, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 12:45:00AM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote: > > > > >... > > > > > solid) > > > > > apart from HIGHMEM64G fiasco, and related agpgart fiasco long > > > > > time before that... these are driver problems... > > > > >... > > > > > > > > One point that seems to be a bit forgotten is that driver problems do > > > > actually matter a lot: > > > > > > > > I for one do not care much whether I can abort suspending (I can always > > > > resume) or whether dancing penguins are displayed during suspending - > > > > but the fact that my saa7134 card only outputs the picture but no sound > > > > after resuming from suspend-to-disk is a real show-stopper for me. > > > > Agreed that some things are more important than others. But to some > > people, user interface does matter. After all, we want (well I want) > > people considering converting from Windows to see that free software can > > be better than proprietary stuff, not just imitate what they're doing. > > > > Suspend2 doesn't actually provide dancing penguins while suspending - > > it's a simple progress bar in either pure text or overlayed on an image > > of your choosing. > > > > The support for aborting is really just fall out from the work on > > debugging and testing failure paths. > >... > > Sorry if this sounded as if I was against improvements of suspend. > That was not my intention. > > But as long as there are driver problems, suspend as a whole can not be > called solid. The core itself might be solid or not, but without working > drivers this doesn't buy users much. > > A user might be impressed by a progress bar on a nifty image, but if one > or more of his drivers have problems with suspend the user won't get a > good impression of Linux.
Very true, but is there a good solution to this problem? If you have any ideas, please go forward with them. :-)
> How many driver problems with suspend are buried in emails and > Bugzillas (will problems like kernel Bugzilla #6035 ever be debugged?)?
I've been trying to follow them for quite some time and some of them has been resolved recently. Still to follow a bug report _I_ need to know there is one. I mean, if a bug is redirected to power-management_other@kernel-bugs.osdl.org, for example, who will be notified of the report?
Greetings, Rafael
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