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    SubjectRe: 2.6.19 -mm merge plans
    On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 02:33:41PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
    > Linus Torvalds wrote:
    > >One of the things that I think the current model has excelled at is how it
    > >really changed peoples behaviour, simply because they knew and understood
    > >the rules.
    > >
    > >I think the "big merges in the first two weeks, and a -rc1 after, and no
    > >new code after that" rule has been working because it brought everybody in
    > >on the same page.
    >
    >
    > I definitely agree with all that.
    >
    > I simply argue that, the more time that passes between releases, the
    > MORE BUGS that appear in the next release.
    >
    > After -rc1, you reach a point of diminishing returns where users don't
    > re-test Release Candidates, developers move on to new code rather than
    > fix bugs, and we all move into a limbo where 2.6.X-rcY doesn't see much
    > activity, but the huge "merge snowball" in -mm builds and builds and builds.

    This "there is not enough testing by users" is simply not true:

    Even the kernel Bugzilla that contains only a small subset of all bug
    reports contains 78 (sic) open bugs reported against 2.6.18-rc kernels [1].

    Not all of them are regressions, but this shows that users are testing
    -rc kernels and reporting bugs.

    > As an aside, if a release is getting held up by some key bugs or
    > regressions, I think it's more than fair for Andrew to loudly shame said
    > developers into action. "The following nincompoops are holding up the
    > release: Jeff Garzik [bug #1222, #3391], Greg KH [bug #9987, #4418], ..."
    >
    > Jeff

    cu
    Adrian

    [1] including bugs reported against 2.6.18-rc?-mm? and 2.6.18-rc?-git*

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