Messages in this thread | | | From | "Rafael J. Wysocki" <> | Subject | Re: Which is simpler? (Was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: [ 00/10] [Suspend2] Modules support.) | Date | Wed, 8 Feb 2006 11:03:45 +0100 |
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Hi,
On Wednesday 08 February 2006 08:33, Nigel Cunningham wrote: > On Wednesday 08 February 2006 16:59, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > On Wednesday 08 February 2006 00:11, Nigel Cunningham wrote: > > > On Wednesday 08 February 2006 09:02, Pavel Machek wrote: }-- snip --{ > > > > Lee is a programmer. He wants faster swsusp, and improving uswsusp is > > > > currently best way to get that. It may be alpha/beta quality, but > > > > someone has to start testing, and Lee should be good for that (played > > > > with realtime kernels etc...). Actually it is in good enough state > > > > that I'd like non-programmers to test it, too. > > > > > > Ok. So Lee might be ok to test uswsusp. But this is your approach > > > regardless of who is emailing you. You consistently tell people to fix > > > problems themselves and send you a patch. That's not what a maintainer > > > should do. They're supposed to maintain, not get other people to do the > > > work. They're supposed to be helpful, not a source of anxiety. You might be > > > the maintainer of swsusp in name, but you're not in practice. Please, lift > > > your game! > > > > I strongly disagree with this opinion. I don't think there's any problem with > > Pavel, at least I haven't had any problems in communicating with him. > > You seem to be the only person around who gets on well with him.
Well, that's probably because I always do my best to be nice and follow the rules that Pavel sets. I post patches to modify the existing code and not to replace it top-down. I keep them as compact as reasonably possible and focus on one thing at a time. I remove the parts that Pavel and other people don't like or I try to modify these parts to be more acceptable. Etc. This is not _that_ difficult.
> Please, more people step up and tell me I'm wrong. I am only going off the > mailing list afterall, and not daily personal interaction of some other kind. > > > Moreover, I don't think the role of maintainer must be to actually write the > > code. From my point of view Pavel is in the right place, because I need > > someone to tell me if I'm going to do something stupid who knows the kernel > > better than I do. > > By definition, if they don't maintain code, their not a maintainer. If they > only tell someone that they're going to do something stupid, they're a > code reviewer.
Well, this is your opinion.
In my opinion a maintainer need not be a developer. The dictionary definition of "to maintain" is "to keep a road, machine, building, etc. in good condition" (http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=48204&dict=CALD) which need not impy any development.
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