Messages in this thread | | | Date | Sat, 16 Dec 2006 01:01:17 +0300 | From | Alexey Dobriyan <> | Subject | Re: Binary Drivers |
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On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 09:20:58PM +0000, James Porter wrote: > I think some kernel developers take to much responsibility, is there a bug in a > binary driver? Send it upstream and explain to the user that it's a closed > source driver and is up to said company to fix it. > > For what it's worth, I don't see any problem with binary drivers from hardware > manufacturers.
Binary drivers from hardware manufacturers are crap. Learn it by heart.
> Just because nvidia makes a closed source driver doesn't mean that we can't also > create an open source driver(limited functionality, reverse engineered, > etc.,etc.).
We can.
> I firmly believe that the choice should be up to the user and/or > distro. I'm not a kernel dev, I don't know c...
but you can't.
> but I understand the concepts and > I should have the right to do what I want with this GPL code.
You don't have a right to do what you want with GNU GPL'ed code. Read the fucking license, already.
> Restricting me only frustrates me.
Nobody is restricting you.
> Should the default be open source, definitely; should binary > drivers be blocked from running on a linux kernel...certainly not.
But users of binary drivers should be blocked from sending bug reports to kernel developers.
> I personally like nvidia's products, they have spent a lot of money in R&D. One > example is SLI, if their spec was open what would stop ATI from stealing their > work(patents?, gotta love those).
I lost a nice quote about 10-20% of the community stopping making excuses for vendors. Sad, sad, nice quote definitely.
> Personally I think nvidia has excellent > support for linux, I have actually convinced people to use linux(desktop and > server) just by showing them beryl with the nvidia beta drivers.
beryl on server?
> Lastly I think it's ridiculous to create,diplay, and distribute "Free" as in > freedom and "Free" as in cost software only to later consider limiting my > freedom...
Nobody is limiting you.
> want to know why a lot of large companies don't support > linux...exactly threads like this.
You asked them?
> Why make the effort to use "Free" software > only to have the rug pulled out from under you. This is what makes the BSDs so > attractive.
So use BSD.
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