Messages in this thread | | | Date | Wed, 21 Apr 2004 12:07:38 +0200 | From | Erik Mouw <> | Subject | Re: vger.kernel.org is listed by spamcop |
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On Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 05:56:41PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > Matti Aarnio <matti.aarnio@zmailer.org> writes: > > The only way to handle this is to have smarter people, who are always > > vigilant enough to look deeply into the message headers and do realize > > that some spam has leaked thru VGER's lists. > > I'm confused -- the spamcopy info page you listed implies that hosts are > listed if they are an _open relay_, which is a completely different > thing from `spam leaking though VGER's lists.'
Vger is not an open relay:
% telnet vger.kernel.org smtp Connected to vger.kernel.org. Escape character is '^]'. 220 vger.kernel.org ZMailer Server 2.99.57-pre1 #11 ESMTP ready at Wed, 21 Apr 2004 05:56:30 -0400 EHLO harddisk-recovery.com 250-vger.kernel.org expected "EHLO xxx.xxx.xxx" 250-SIZE 0 250-8BITMIME 250-PIPELINING 250-CHUNKING 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-DSN 250-X-RCPTLIMIT 10000 250-ETRN 250 HELP MAIL FROM: <> 250 2.0.0 Ok (sourcechannel 'error' accepted) Ok RCPT TO: <erik@harddisk-recovery.com> 550 5.7.1 Your IP address [xx.xx.xx.xx] is not allowed to relay to email address <erik@harddisk-recovery.com> via our server; MX rule
Spamcop is wrong. Some spammer targeted one of the lists on vger. That doesn't make vger an open relay.
> If VGER actually is an open relay, that's very bad, but presumably > something easily solved by the machine's maintainers. Some spam getting > through to VGER list recipients, on the other hand, is just annoying > (and certainly shouldn't be the cause of any blacklisting). > > The spamcop report page seems to say that the listings are due to user > reports; could the real problem be clueless users who don't understand > the difference above?
Yes.
Erik
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