Messages in this thread | | | Date | Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:11:52 -0500 (EST) | From | "Richard B. Johnson" <> | Subject | Re: Ded-Fat 8.0 and ext3 |
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2003, Dumitru Ciobarcianu wrote:
> On Vi, 2003-03-21 at 21:31, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > > Hello all. Greetings from fix-up land. > > > > I installed RedHat 8.0 of an existing system. By default it > > makes ext3 file-systems with journaling enabled. > > > > That distribution used Linux-2.4.18-14. > > I copied /boot/config-2.4.18-14 to /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-15/.config > > as a ".config" file and executed: > > > > `make oldconfig` > > > [stuff deleted] >
No. It isn't that easy. And if they keep rejecting what I tell them, without actually checking and testing what's in their distributions, they will go the way of other arrogant companies who refuse to listen to their customers.
As Red Hat "matures", it's distributions become more and more like Microsoft in "look and feel". This replaces functionality with glamor. This it not good. You can add whatever glamor the marketing departments require as long as you don't remove long-time accepted functionality. Once you throw away the functionality, you end up loosing market share.
It is important that Red Hat remain in business so that the "nay-sayers" do not win their arguments and there remains several viable companies employing kernel developers. We all have a stake in the success of these distributors. If we we fail to report problems with distributions, we actually fail to help support Linux. On the other hand, when a distributor rejects these reports out-of-hand, the whole Linux community will eventually suffer the consequences.
Here is the output of standard-error while executing `make dep`. It's informative:
find: /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/math-emu: No such file or directory suspend.c:54:27: linux/compile.h: No such file or directory In file included from suspend.c:56: /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/linux/reboot.h:55:34: macro "software_suspend" passed 1 arguments, but takes just 0 suspend.c:981:27: macro "software_suspend" passed 1 arguments, but takes just 0 suspend.c:1277:26: macro "software_resume" passed 1 arguments, but takes just 0 serial.c:1524:1: directives may not be used inside a macro argument serial.c:1522:39: unterminated argument list invoking macro "serial_outp" au1000_gpio.c:41:24: asm/au1000.h: No such file or directory au1000_gpio.c:42:29: asm/au1000_gpio.h: No such file or directory In file included from i2c-algo-ite.c:50: i2c-ite.h:36:31: asm/it8172/it8172.h: No such file or directory rtc.c:27:25: asm/machdep.h: No such file or directory rtc.c:29:22: asm/time.h: No such file or directory via-pmu.c:40:22: asm/prom.h: No such file or directory via-pmu.c:41:25: asm/machdep.h: No such file or directory via-pmu.c:45:26: asm/sections.h: No such file or directory via-pmu.c:48:30: asm/pmac_feature.h: No such file or directory via-pmu.c:51:26: asm/sections.h: No such file or directory via-pmu.c:52:26: asm/cputable.h: No such file or directory via-pmu.c:53:22: asm/time.h: No such file or directory i2o_pci.c:392:1: warning: no newline at end of file audio.c:41:25: asm/audioio.h: No such file or directory amd7930.c:95:26: asm/openprom.h: No such file or directory amd7930.c:96:23: asm/oplib.h: No such file or directory amd7930.c:100:22: asm/sbus.h: No such file or directory amd7930.c:102:25: asm/audioio.h: No such file or directory dbri.c:53:26: asm/openprom.h: No such file or directory dbri.c:54:23: asm/oplib.h: No such file or directory dbri.c:58:22: asm/sbus.h: No such file or directory dbri.c:61:25: asm/audioio.h: No such file or directory su.c:78:23: asm/oplib.h: No such file or directory su.c:80:22: asm/ebus.h: No such file or directory bbc_i2c.c:16:23: asm/oplib.h: No such file or directory bbc_i2c.c:17:22: asm/ebus.h: No such file or directory bbc_i2c.c:18:26: asm/spitfire.h: No such file or directory bbc_i2c.c:19:21: asm/bbc.h: No such file or directory In file included from bbc_i2c.c:21: bbc_i2c.h:5:22: asm/ebus.h: No such file or directory In file included from 53c700.c:134: 53c700.h:40:2: #error "Config.in must define either CONFIG_53C700_IO_MAPPED or CONFIG_53C700_MEM_MAPPED to use this scsi core." 53c700.c:155:22: 53c700_d.h: No such file or directory fas216.c:55:23: asm/ecard.h: No such file or directory newport.c:11:21: asm/gfx.h: No such file or directory newport.c:12:21: asm/ng1.h: No such file or directory rrm.c:15:21: asm/rrm.h: No such file or directory shmiq.c:57:23: asm/shmiq.h: No such file or directory shmiq.c:58:21: asm/gfx.h: No such file or directory usema.c:38:25: asm/usioctl.h: No such file or directory tc.c:15:27: asm/addrspace.h: No such file or directory tc.c:17:30: asm/dec/machtype.h: No such file or directory tc.c:18:28: asm/dec/tcinfo.h: No such file or directory tc.c:19:30: asm/dec/tcmodule.h: No such file or directory tc.c:20:32: asm/dec/interrupts.h: No such file or directory sa1100fb.c:166:26: asm/hardware.h: No such file or directory sa1100fb.c:169:28: asm/mach-types.h: No such file or directory sa1100fb.c:171:30: asm/arch/assabet.h: No such file or directory In file included from zorro.c:17: /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/linux/zorro.h:158:23: asm/zorro.h: No such file or directory zorro.c:20:25: asm/amigahw.h: No such file or directory
Now; I have attached the script, showing what I executed to actually generate this. As previously reported by myself, Version 8.0 even breaks the execution of `script` so there is a lot of wrong console activity recorded.
I did not bother to go any further than `make oldconfig` and `make dep` in this "Show-and-tell". As previously reported, continuing with `make bzImage` will result in many errors and the failure to compile. Further, what used to take a few minutes to compile on that machine, now takes a whole day. This is because something went wrong with the ext3 file-system which Red Hat installed by default. The Red Hat installation never asked me if I wanted to use ext3. It also didn't ask me if I wanted a journal file-system. Instead, its arrogance resulted in an unusable system that will have to be redone as a long, time-consuming project.
Cheers, Dick Johnson Penguin : Linux version 2.4.20 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips). Why is the government concerned about the lunatic fringe? Think about it. [unhandled content-type:application/octet-stream] | |