Messages in this thread | | | Date | Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:30:35 +0100 | From | Stephan von Krawczynski <> | Subject | Re: Ptrace hole / Linux 2.2.25 |
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 15:06:35 -0800 "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com> wrote:
> > I agree that we are disagreeing about what should be mainline 2.4 :)
I guess this is the main reason why kernel-maintenance is organized non-democratic (and has always been). Sometimes you just get nowhere if 5 brilliant people (_no_ sarcasm here) talk about at least 6 brilliant, but completely different, ideas.
> > "People are shipping it, so it must be good" is the proverbial > > road-to-hell-paved-with-good-intentions. > > Mmmm ... not sure what that says about the vendor kernels ;-)
As we all know it just says everything.
> But I'm well aware that that's in disagreement with others ... having a > separate "common-vendor" tree is probably the right thing to do.
dear Martin, dear Jeff, dear all,
_please_ be honest and realistic: we are talking about the problem of vendors forking around yakr (Yet Another Kernel Release) and you really say "lets solve it all with _another_ fork" ?? Come on, don't be silly (tm Linus). Let's focus and not fork. There _are_ issues with 2.4, but they are getting solved bit-by-bit. It would be faster of course if we all would concentrate on the _mainline_ and not on yet-another patchlist, split-tree or whatever.
Another thing has already been talked about here, so lets talk real open about it: some of us are living in the strong impression that Marcelo has problems with the pure time working on maintaining. I do not know anything about the backgrounds, but if this is really true, then let _me_ ask Conectiva if there is a chance that he can do the maintaining full-time. I mean this is for sure one of the interesting PR activities, too. After all those years it is still true: there can be only one. Of course this only makes sense if he still really wants to do that. _Me_ asking this because I am in no way related to any other distro, vendor or Marcelo, just being the "linux-enthusiast from next-door" (with management background ;-).
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