Messages in this thread | | | Date | Tue, 25 Feb 2003 18:46:11 -0500 (EST) | From | Gerhard Mack <> | Subject | Re: Server shipments [was Re: Minutes from Feb 21 LSE Call] |
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On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Larry McVoy wrote:
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 15:19:26 -0800 > From: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com> > To: Gerrit Huizenga <gh@us.ibm.com> > Cc: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>, Martin J. Bligh <mbligh@aracnet.com>, > linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > Subject: Re: Server shipments [was Re: Minutes from Feb 21 LSE Call] > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 02:02:28PM -0800, Gerrit Huizenga wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:17:01 PST, Larry McVoy wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 08:11:21PM -0800, Martin J. Bligh wrote: > > > > > What part of "all servers from all companies" did you not understand? > > > > > > > > Average price from Dell: $2495 > > > > Average price overall: $9347 > > > > > > > > Conclusion ... Dell makes cheaper servers than average, presumably smaller. > > > > > > So how many CPUs do you think you get in a $9K server? > > > > Did the numbers track add-on prices, as opposed to base server? Most > > servers are sold with one CPU and lots of extra slots. Need to dig > > down to the add-on data to find upgrades to more CPUs and more memory > > in the field (and more disk drives). > > I included the URL's so you could check for yourself but I arrived at > those numbers by taking the world wide revenue associated with servers > and dividing by the number of units shipped. I would expect that would > include the add on stuff. > > I'm sure IBM makes money on their high end stuff but I'd suspect that > it is more bragging rights than what keeps the lights on. > > I think the point which was missed in this whole thread is that even if > IBM has fantastic margins today on big iron, it's unlikely to stay that > way. The world is catching up. I can by a dual 1.8Ghz AMD box for > about $1500. 4 ways are more, maybe $10K or so. So you have the cheapo > white boxes coming at you from the low end. > > On the high end, go look at what customers want. They are mostly taking > those big boxes and partitioning them. Sooner or later some bright boy > is going to realize that they could put 4 4 way boxes in one rack and > call it a 16 way box with 4 way partitioning "pre-installed".
er you mean like what racksaver.com does with their 2 dual CPU servers in a box?
Gerhard
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