Messages in this thread | | | Date | Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:35:55 +0200 | From | Pavel Machek <> | Subject | Re: 2.3 wish: integrate pcmcia into mainstream kernel |
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Hi!
> >> `subj` is my 2.3 wish. Having pcmcia support outside of standard > >> kernel makes pcmcia drivers second-class citizens, which only work > >> sometimes. > > As an aside, I'd question the assertion that having PCMCIA outside the > kernel causes it to "only work sometimes". I'm not aware of any major > PCMCIA problems that have been caused by kernel version skew, and all > such minor problems have been quickly fixed. I don't think PCMCIA has > had more such problems than other types of drivers that *are* in the > kernel: when there have been major changes in kernel interfaces, it > has not been uncommon for drivers to break.
Well: when someone does big changes to kernel (like turning way wait-queues are declared), he/she tends to fix all places in linux kernel. He/she certainly will break few drivers. Problem with pcmcia drivers is that all of them are allways broken this little way. Is pcmcia package distributed in form of patches?
> > However, I'm not going to just use the pcmcia code as-is, as David Hinds > > has never been very excited about putting the support in the kernel. > > And I do believe that for the old-style pcmcia stuff the current > > approach is the right one anyway due to the ugly details. But if > > somebody were to start up a cardbus driver system, I wouldn't be unhappy... > > I think this is the first time I've ever heard you express interest in > kernel support for dynamically configured devices. I'm somewhat > unhappy that it sounds like you're encouraging someone else to do it > differently.
mj@ucw.cz + jj@ucw.cz want to do complete rewrite of buses for 2.3, and one of their goals is make dynamically configured devices available.
> consideration for me. I'm not dead-set against putting PCMCIA in the > kernel, and anyone who felt strongly enough about it is free to just > do it, though I'd prefer them to do it in a way that would make it > easy to propagate updates from my tree to the kernel tree.
Currently, PCMCIA is licensed using MPL. Would it be possible to release pcmcia package under _both_ MPL and GPL in future to make in-kernel integration easier? [pretty please] [I'm not a lawyer so I do not know if it would be legal to integrate MPL sources into kernel tree. And I do not think Linus would like MPL sources in kernel tree...]
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