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    SubjectRe: PUBLIC CHALLENGE: (was RE: devfs again, (was RE: USB device a lloc ation) )
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    "Stefan Monnier" <monnier+lists/linux/kernel/news/@tequila.cs.yale.edu> said:
    > >>>>> "Horst" == Horst von Brand <vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl> writes:

    [...]

    > > Strange. I've been running OSS on my PC for quite some time, no problems
    > > there. No devfs in sight, done it way before devfs was dreamed up even.

    > Maybe it's because you don't read what you reply to ?
    > The claim was that OSS would break if you used modules along with a script
    > that clears the /dev hierarchy based on what is really available (hint:
    > before the OSS module is loaded, those things are not available so the
    > devices would be removed, preventing the autoloading from kicking in).

    kmod keeps devices available here.

    > > All of them handle them as files that have persistent permissions, AFAIK.

    > Oh yes! But persistence of the special-device-file is not necessarily
    > such a good idea when the underlying major/minor assignmment is dynamic.

    OK, either /dev/disk1 is everytime the same disk (in which case persistence
    is mandatory) or it is not (there I agree with you). But in the second case
    the name and major/minor things are totally useless, as you can't depend on
    them as handles for anything. Then just use some other way to manage devices,
    and forget /dev altogether then.
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    Horst von Brand vonbrand@sleipnir.valparaiso.cl
    Casilla 9G, Viña del Mar, Chile +56 32 672616


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